Often we hear people complaining how we people are causing the global warming, and that we need to do something to save earth. I am curious if all those people who are complaining are doing anything personaly to help. like given up your car?
I'm complaining, I have not given up my car but I see to it that my car is not smoke belching and I do carpool so that there would be less pollution even just by 4 people.
Global warming are you for real? Temperature across the planet has been rising since the last ice age and will continue to rise until there is another ice age. The stuff on TV is a scare tactic to get ratings. You should take an Oceanography class and you will learn in dept analysis of temperatures all the way back to the ice age.
yeah...homebizseo you have your point, but pollution isn't a good thing for our health...or even for this natural global warming...obvious it's increasing it
The global warming lobby really is a load of tosh, half the graphs and figures are fabrigated, tehy dont even include past mini ice ages or warm seasons. The fact of the matter is that earths warmer periods have always initiated a huge boost in human progression and technological advancement. The earths temprature is overal increasing, even though temporarily it is dropping, but this was predicted over 800 years ago in relation to earths distance and allignment to the sun, carbon and methane emissions by the way increase naturally when the earths temprature rises, so (Surprise Surprise) yes there IS a colloration between earths temprature and CO2, its just some people are too bloody stupid to look at basic natural sciences over their own petty assumptions and agendas. The majority of global warming nuts are the same people who would have only a few hundred years ago been fanatically following the church, a few decades ago UFOs. There is always some doom and excitement theory that people love to jump on to make themselves feel special, knowledgeable or important.
I haven't owned a car since i was 20. I got rid of it specifically because of the pollution it caused. I walk wherever i can and use public transport when walking isn't an option. ThisIsOli, We know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we know we are producing it, So if you don't believe we are having an effect on climate you simply haven't read enough or failed to understand what you have read. It's as illogical as lighting a candle and then claiming it isn't contributing to the illumination of the room.
Pollution and global warming are real threats. You must go and live in some polluted, unbearably hot place for a while to really understand.
I think a lot of people assume the phrases global warming and climate change refer to man-made problems; which may or may not be the case. Either way, the earth is getting hotter (not many people dispute that). Patterns have been found that seem to link carbon dioxide to the level of heat that the earth absorbs from the sub. If there's even a chance that we're creating the climate change, or even speeding it up a little, why not try to reduce the amount of CO2 we pump into the air, just in case? What's the worst that will do? Leave our air a little cleaner for our grandchildren? I don't laugh at bible-thumpers when they say they go to church just in case god exists so why not try and cut back a little on your energy consumption just in case global warming?
Many scientists who are observing the temperature are saying that it has cooled since 1998. Might want to look into that. You are acting like stox by making up something to try and put down those you hate. Many of us who think and use reasoning want to cut down on pollution, use resources efficiently, want clean air and a balanced atmosphere. We are those who love nature, respect the land, but are willing to use the resources while not trying to destroy what is so beautiful.
WE cant Stop to go on the life we are living are full of luxurious right and tell me whos the one who want to leave there luxurious life..!! Might b just 1 out of 100 But at least we can try to make them in slower or just try to make it on control. We Must Grows No. of Trees and at least make our surrounding to be well greenish ...!! IF each one of us do get this then instead of cutting down we must try to grow tress and lot of plants.. Pollution is not So high till now that till the time we are alive it doesn't make out future go spoiled ..! But think about those Child ( Our coming generation ) how they gone suffer. At least for there Sake you must try to work on it And I Wish My Message to my Friends.. will help us to go out n put some trees around us . and make sure instead of going 3 persons in different cars use 1 car to travel. that will save your money to..!!
Source? I'm not trying to put down anyone; just trying to keep the planet nice and livable for my grandkids...
I would say that your hatred blinds you about who you insult or put down then. Here is a search with plenty of results, start reading. I didn't want to have to go and read them one by one and post the ones I saw as being from a respectable source, there are plenty there: global cooling
I feel Tarpon's was a reasonable post - unless I've misread something, what I read in what he is saying is something like Pascal's Wager applied to the only system we have to sustain our life, and the life of our grandkids; Given the stakes, in my personal opinion, not a bad wager to take. (I said something along these lines some time ago: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4314649&postcount=7 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4315033&postcount=10 As to global cooling v. warming (ignoring for the time being the question of whether our merely 150-year old or so anomaly of industrialization, over the eons of time in world and human history), as a former chef who had to source materials, I speak from the example of food supply: colder-clime wine production is moving ever northward (with erstwhile southern wines getting spanked by sustained over-temp seasons), fishing routes are being seriously screwed up by a secular trend upwards in temperature, and already the GMO-vanguards (like Monsanto) are gobbling up patents on "climate ready" engineered agro-foods. We can argue over whether man's taking a colossal daily dump on the ecosystem, something not seen before a couple of centuries ago, has any statistical relationship to what seemingly is: it's getting hotter. But I don't see much to make meat for the discussion of whether whether it is, or isn't, getting hotter. .
I think you should read some of your own sources... Here's clips from the FOX news article from the results page you posted (even referencing your 1998 remark)... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346310,00.html
I agree, Tarpon - this is actually what I meant by "secular trend." Such an idea, of a sustained increase in temp over time (and, agriculturally speaking, seasons), is really what is affecting the food sources I spoke of above. No boogieman, for me, but reality, one of many reasons (along with sheer, shortsighted greed and stupidity - in fisheries alone) I'm freaked about the world's food supply for my child's children.
I was actually talking about this with the girlfriend a while ago... Here's a link to a response from an article in TIME about the extinction of more and more species of fish: http://www.scintillatingscience.com/content/view/31/9 Interesting stuff; but she still devours tuna like it's chocolate... Also, thanks for better clarifying what I was trying to describe with the "why not?" aspect of climate change.. When I'm typing a post, it's easy to think I did a good job of explaining something, only to later read my own post and see that I wasn't very clear...
Thank you, Tarpon - great resource for us all. Very disheartened to watch something the other day, "The Dolphin Defender," on Hardy Jones's lifelong mission to bring light to the destruction of dolphin populations worldwide. Very surprised, and very saddened, to see studies on the Orca populations in the Pacific NW - among the most protected waters in the world for this animal - in serious decline due to accumulated biotoxins. The males were first tracked decades ago, and none of them have survived - a combination of biotoxins, reduced prey (especially salmon, itself hit hard by warming), and human direct idiocy (harassment and other things); the females are able to pass along the accumulated biotoxins due to concentration in their expressed milk, but this is passed on to their young, who cannot survive the accumulations. You made your point beautifully - just my ego to say, "yeah - and I said it TOO!"
Global Warming may or may not be as big a problem as some people say but quite simply, less polution surely would benfit everyone? Even if you dont "believe" in global warming surely you believe in less polution. I myself have reserves about the seriousness of global warming (although i do not deny it exists) I think that taking measures to "reduce" global warming will have positive effects on other environmental issues.