It is virtually impossible for any US citizen to have a balanced idea of world events

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  1. webwork

    webwork Banned

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    #21
    The Patrotic American within tells me you guys are a bunch of commie lovers.

    The logical part of my brain tells me Russia didn't roll them over for no good reason, like the media is portraying.
     
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  2. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #22
    Russia has a history of rolling on democracies -- Budapest 1956 and Pargue 1968 come to mind. Russia was ready to roll on Poland in 1979.
     
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  3. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #23
    Good they were ready to protect the civilian population against such an idiot.

    How come the world champion in democracy the one that saved the Iraqis from the brutal dictator Saddam Husain didn't go to the rescue of the Ossetians from another dictator?
     
    ST12, Aug 14, 2008 IP
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    #24
    The same reason that a bully will punch a mouthy but weedy kid and steal his lunch money - but won't tackle the captain of the football team.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #25
    The candidate that are left in the running are flip flops. Who knows what they will stand for in 30 minutes.

    Some day maybe. They were friends before.
     
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    #26
    The dumbest question being repeated here is: "how come the US didn't run into Georgia and fight the Russians?"

    You're honestly suggesting that the USA should engage in what could turn out to be a nuclear war with Russia, all without engaging in any diplomacy.

    The Russians have 1.3 million people in their military. Georgia 37,000. Now you guys are making Russia out to be some kind of military super power.

    Since Russia is feeling so powerful, why the hell don't they go ahead and attack the United States then? Why stop in Georgia? They must be afraid.
     
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  7. N_F_S

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    #27
    It was predictable, the same goes to Kosovo situation where US outplayed us ;)

    It was weak indeed (thanks to Eltsin for that, a pro-american idiot).

    However, you forgot to mention that this is the 2nd war, the first took place in 1994 between Georgia (again) and Abkhaziya ;)

    Nah, oil and gas ? You forgot about: STEEL, NICKEL, ALUMINIUM, WOOD, CORN, etc. etc. Aint that simple to just blaming oil and gas here :D We got a LOT of resources you can dream of.

    Once again, WRONG, this conflict started from 1990, I dont think Georgia wanted to join NATO since 1990, so read the history.

    Thats an american telling this? HAHA, you are already a bully, we are just joining your game.
     
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  8. N_F_S

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    #28

    great post. Especially, the words in bold. And surely, Russia had this response in mind since 1990, when all this conflict started and after the war between Georgia vs Abkhaziya in 1994.

    The Georgian President is actually blaming the west and US for not helping him to start a 3rd world war :cool: :D

    Hes clearly an idiot and not a political leader. The best partner in that region is Russia (economically, financially, etc. in any field). I dont know how is he planning to live now, when Russia cut air, sea, postal, banking and all contacts with Georgia. His people will eat him alive themselves like it was in 7 Nov 2007, thats when Russia blocked most relations with Georgia, and then few months later they re-established them.

    He can get a US-military aid as he was getting it in the last years ($1 bln army budget for a 4ml country). However, you cannot feed your own people with guns/tanks/uniform, and people arent that stupid.

    the most important sentence:

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1542107,00.html
     
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    #29
    It is just like anywhere else, we receive information from news sources. I think a lot of times they have agendas, but their facts are accurate.
     
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  10. N_F_S

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    #30
    You are stil living in the soviet times? That was USSR not Russia, wake up ;)

    are you sure about that ?
     
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    #31
    You could nitpick and find some flaws, but the vast majority of the time the facts are accurate. Unlike other places, people really do sit on opposite sides of the fence and scrutinize the media anytime they can. Especially if they oppose the direction that the media was taking it. People in general are natural truth seekers. Unlike 3rd world countries, we have the resources necessary to catch these flaws instead of just taking them hook, line, and sinker. I wouldn't say our media is much different than other places though.
     
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  12. N_F_S

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    #32
    Surely you are "opening up nations to democracy and wealth as a result":

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBYAzCgZCHU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pR8rLZaqg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqIMCBeqroc

    :rolleyes:

    What?! Picking the video of victim's destroyed city (made by a russian journalist by the way) and showing it as an aggressor's city being bombed is a "flaw"? :D Ooookaaaaay.

    This is insane, I hope CNN will answer in court for that coverage.
     
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    #33
    At least truth can be told in Usa although it is hard to hear if you don't search it but in Russia telling the truth needs courage if it is against the state.
     
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    #34

    I live in US and am 100% sure you are not telling the truth.

    Proof:

    If the truth was told to the Americans about Iraq, there would be no war on Iraq.
    And US and the world would be much better off.

    The US public is fed with fabricated lies all the time, more than any other country probably.

    If the public for example knew how Israelis are treating Palestinians all the time Israel wouldn't be getting so much donations and political help from America.

    America is a free country, but she is not free from lying politicians and crooks who screw up the average Joe for personal benefits.
     
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    #35
    Exactly!! and we whipped Saddam's little behind when he thought he could tackle the captain.:eek:
     
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    #37
    Russia committing acts against humanity, because they are angry at Georgia for committing acts against humanity? This is a crazy world we live in.
    The Georgian president blaming America because we would rather not have WW3 just yet...
    But guess who will be rebuilding Georgia?
     
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    #38

    First of all after the BIG LIES in the US media that Russia started the war I have lost any trust that a western media will be objective on any war around the world.

    These lies were repeated over and over and over. Like they did in Iraq before. Beat the public to death with lies to get them behind you.
    The public opinion is already formed and Russia is painted as the agressor.

    Anyway those who committed crimes must be held accountable.
     
    ST12, Aug 16, 2008 IP
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    #39
    What for? You should leave...immediately.
     
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    #40
    Why is it that, sitting at your computer in the US, you can know that all Western media is lying to you and the Russian media is telling you the truth?

    What are the objective facts that lead you to that conclusion? You just declare Russia is telling the truth. You are not using anything to support your conclusions. Perhaps it is Russia and the Russian media that is lying?

    It certainly looks that way to objective observers.
     
    browntwn, Aug 19, 2008 IP