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Matt Cutts says Co-op is bad???

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by t2dman, Apr 28, 2006.

  1. ForgottenCreature

    ForgottenCreature Notable Member

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    #121
    Where are you basing this from? Sure, some companies are getting cheaper, but not all.
     
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  2. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #122

    That is about the size of it :) Currently the spiders collect the content of a page,and that is that. The entire content is used for the algorithm in equal amount. BLLA parses the code, and then looks at where and how the content is displayed. So very small text in the footer area of a page might be disregarded, then again, if it is made up of internal links it might be given more weight as it is a site map, and google luvs sitemaps :) .

    The top weighted are for links is the body copy, mainly because it is 'buy Cialis' very difficult to spam and retain credibility, I mean to say, did you spot the spammy link in this paragraph? See what I mean ;)
     
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  3. mad4

    mad4 Peon

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    #123
    The Google Adsense heat map is a pretty good indicator of how they value the different parts of a web page IMO.

    Get your links in the orange bits.:)
     
    mad4, May 7, 2006 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #124
    That heat map is very generic and may or may not conform to your website. On page factors can dramatically alter where the "orange bits" appear.
     
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  5. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #125
    just put as many ads as possible in front the visitor and they'll click! as simple as that :)
     
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  6. digitalcamera

    digitalcamera Banned

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    #126
    Google hates you if your a seo and your site looks like crap and grammar is bad.

    Google likes you if your Site is designed well and grammar and spelling is imp3ctaBBle.

    Finally if you do well they will ban you regardless.

    If your PR8+ you either work for them or are a educational domain or Government or Military or .ORG of some pathetic capacity.

    In regards to this Matt Cutts GUy he doesn't have a clue about SEO obviously

    Google "Google Bigdaddy fiasco" I see he is 2nd under some clowns Blogger Site with looks to me to be of fundamental importance in Googles database most likely run by a Physics or English Proffesor at Harvard.
     
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  7. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #127
    rofl, stuff Google, we like you if you get the spelling right before you leap into 1331 speak!
     
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    Shoemoney $

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    #128
    wow what a great addition to digitalpoint you are! Welcome
     
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    digitalcamera Banned

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    #129
    I swear my grammar is right but this keyboard is in Russian so bear with me.
     
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  10. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #130
    Thank you SO much for cheering up my morning. So Matt knows NOTHING about SEO . :p

    I have to say that for a short post you sure have stuffed in the maximum amount of misinformation. Congratulations :D
     
    Old Welsh Guy, May 8, 2006 IP
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    #131
    Based on my own experience. I am just comparing what I used to pay for hosting, bandwidth etc. a few years ago to now .... It's been dropping all the time and as the scale of things grows bigger it will only get cheaper: Economies of scale :D
     
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    #132
    Here's a great read:

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/indexing-timeline/

    He is thorough and specific in the "whys and wherefores" of the loss of pages in indexes and the spammy links in websites unrelated to the content.

    Check it out if you haven't read it. Comments by readers are helpful too.
     
    KathyHS, May 16, 2006 IP
  13. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #133
    It's an interesting blog post but missing a few things, IMO.

    From: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/indexing-timeline

    The problem is his explanation does NOT adequately account for many of the sites affected. AND, according to that quote, Cutts claimed that problem was fixed. So why are so many sites still affected?

    Conclusion? Maybe what we're talking about is something else. Maybe it's not Big Daddy - I can accept that. But the problems started with Big Daddy or around that time and they are still not fixed, no matter what Cutts says.

    Maybe Google's just broken?
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #134
    That conclusion appears to be inarguable.

    It's more of a question of "In how many ways is Google broken?"
     
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    #135
    the simple conclusion is that you need less bad links and more good links.

    the more complicated one though is that ...
     
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    #136
    This is a MASSIVE admission from Matt. Google spider way more than they index! It is something I have been looking at a lot of late whereby google have spidered 300 pages a day of good content, but indexed none of it.
     
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    #137
    Not indexing content is a clever way for google to remove spam from their index. Rather than worrying about ranking certain sites really low they just don't index them in the first place.
     
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    #138
    LMAO that is hysterical :D
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #139
    I'd like to look at this from an end users perspective. When was the last time anyone actually found a relevant response to a search term in Google? I know I rarely do. I'm not just talking about finding a bunch of spammy results mixed with other results. I am talking about entering a search term (while legitimately looking for something) only to have things that have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEARCH TERM, show up. Upon visiting these mystery links I end up at pages that have no relevant content (and no, they are not spam or built of AS sites), they are just bad results.

    I have spent time looking through pages that I landed on, looking for the search terms in the page, the source, cache, you name it. I never find anything on these pages that would even remotely be related to what I searched for.

    The biggest problems I have seen as an end user are the damn eBay auction links (almost all of which are almost always DEAD). I search for something, see a bunch of nice results, click on the page and land at an eBay auction that no longer exists.

    Google should either stop indexing eBay auctions, or find a way to nuke them from their index prior to eBay nuking them from theirs.

    I was looking for something last night using Google getting no where as usual, only to use Google Images on a whim, for the same search term. I ended up finding what I was looking for seeing the item in a picture on someone else's' site. Luckily they had a link to where they bought the item.

    What gives?

    Personally I think Google has lost site of the "Less is more" concept. I'd like to see less quantity and more quality.

    If Google wants to reduce the number of spammy, built for AS or useless pages, instead of de-indexing them, why not give us (the end user) a filter/option that lets us filter out all sites with X.

    My 2 cents.
     
    Mia, May 17, 2006 IP
  20. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #140
    yup agree here, ebuy auction page pop up in the results all the time, that's really annoying.
    but that's the google algo, big sites get all the serps

    mia, what you are talking about already exists ;)
     
    DomainMagnate, May 17, 2006 IP