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Seventeen Serial Bomb Blasts In Ahmedabad India 28 Dead 100+ Injured

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Gujju_GangsteR, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #61
    Not by anyone on this forum, stop trying to be funny because your not. Didn't you say keep the insults aside in the other thread?
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #62
    There is no attempt to be funny, neither is there any insults. Wikipedia being petitioned was a fact. Also this was about India bombing, it was transformed into an attack on Israelis saying that Israelis was the start of modern terrorism. My counter reply was no it was not. If there was any terrorism, both Israel and Arabs were equally accountable.

    It seemed that every thread on P & R needs to be turned into a Jewish or Islam bashing thread. I do not wish it to be so.

    My stance is very clear from the beginning of my post, actions begets reaction, both sides are equally accountable. With that I end my participation in this thread as I do not see it getting anywhere within the scope of what the OP wanted.

     
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    Tushavi Active Member

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    #63
    Taliban have no time to doing this ahahahahahahaha
     
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  4. meetbro

    meetbro Banned

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    #64
    yes very near
    Just 1 km far...
     
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    #65
    How are both sides equally accountable when one side started it?
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #66
    El Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini instigated hatred of the Jews and started the violence against the Jews with the the Arab Riots of 1929.

    On Friday, August 23, Arab mobs attacked Jews in Jerusalem, Motza, Hebron, Safed, Jaffa, and other parts of the country. Villages were plundered and destroyed by Arab mobs. While attacks on Jews in Tel Aviv and Haifa were thwarted by Jewish defenses, there were Jewish deaths in Hebron, where 67 Jewish men and women were slaughtered and Safed, where 18 Jews were killed, as well as scattered other losses totaling 133 Jewish deaths, with more than 300 wounded.

    According to documentation from the Nuremberg and Eichmann trials, the Nazi Germany SS helped finance al-Husseini's efforts in the 1936-39 revolt in Palestine. Adolf Eichmann actually visited Palestine and met with al-Husseini at that time and subsequently maintained regular contact with him later in Berlin.

    El Mufti with Hitler
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    #67
    Alot of the Zionist terrorism was before 1929 LOL
     
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    #68
    Your missing the point.

    Anything Jewish/Israel should have never even been brought up in the first place. This is about the bombings that took place in India, I don't understand the ignorance of putting the blame of terrorism on Jews or even one group of particular people in general. Terrorism has existed since the beginning of modern civilization. As time grew on, it became more organized. Hence groups like the KKK who have been around since the 1800's. Some individuals need to become more accepting/educated, and stop attacking/labeling whole groups of people.

    Any side that commits terrorist acts are ACCOUNTABLE.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    The point is that the terrorism is international. It's not limited to India nor the US. A lot of the terrorism against both the US and India begins in the Pakistani madrassas and tribal areas.

    Today there were two nombings in Istanbul Turkey and Hezbollah has launced attacks on Sunni muslims in Tripoli Lebanon.

    The relations between the Jews and Arabs was peaceful before El Mufti incited the violence.
     
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    #70
    Source?

    Source?
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #71
    Istanbul Bombings July 28, 2008

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/world/europe/28turkey.html?hp

    Agreement between the Jews and Arabs to establish a Jewish homeland. Relationships were peaceful before El Mufti the uncle of arafat instigated riots against the Jews in 1920 and 1929.

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    HERE IS YOUR SOURCE AND THE ORGINAL DOCUMENTS BELOW


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    bogart Notable Member

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    Here's the rest of the document:

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    #73
    Why hasn't a single Muslim leader come out to condemn the blasts and why do the Muslims try to defend these attacks at times?
     
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    #74
    To be a terrorist one has to be brainwashed....these terrorists doesnt work for monthly salary, they are fighting for some unknown cause. Even if India govt want to do what you said for political reasons...nobody will be ready to go pakistan to be a suicide bomber. But the reverse is possible!!! :p Its all about ideology not money!!!
    If India were to promote terrorism, they should use islamic terror groups which is not possible in this case!!!
     
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    Police and intelligence investigators believe that the serial bombings in Ahmedabad and Bangalore demonstrate that the Students Islamic Movement of India’s networks have recovered from the recent arrest of top SIMI leadership.

    Mohammad Subhan Qureshi, a top operative who held at least half a dozen training courses for new recruits across southern India in 2006-2007, is believed to be among the architects of the revival of the SIMI networks. A one-time resident of Mumbai’s Mira Road area, he is alleged to have helped to build the high-intensity bombs which ripped through the city’s Gateway of India and Zaveri Bazaar area in 2003.

    SIMI ideologue CAM Basheer, who is thought to be living in Saudi Arabia using a fake passport, is believed to have provided funds which have allowed the Islamist organisation to operate despite the decimation of its leadership. A former Air India engineer who left his job to work for SIMI full time, Basheer is alleged to have financed the 2003 serial bombings, in which 48 people were killed and over 150 injured.

    In Madhya Pradesh, police arrested 13 leaders of the SIMI’s jihadist faction in March. Among them are SIMI’s top ideologue, Safdar Nagori, his brother Kamaruddin Nagori, and key recruiters Abdul Peedical Shibly and Hafiz Adnan Husain.

    At a meeting in Ujjain in July 2007, Nagori and other members of SIMI’s factions decided to escalate jihadist activities against India. Qureshi was asked to liaise with Islamist groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan for exploring the possibility of securing logistics assistance from the Taliban, which Nagori had long viewed as a model for SIMI. It is unclear if such links were ever established.

    Intelligence sources said it was also possible that the bombings were intended to prevent a rival, anti-violence SIMI faction from capitalising on the arrests, and claiming leadership of the organisation’s rank and file.The former SIMI president, Shahid Badr Falahi, was instrumental in setting up the anti-violence SIMI faction, formed after a meeting at Aluva, Kerala, in January 2006. Led by West Bengal resident Mohammad Misbah-ul-Haq, members of this faction argue that jihadist violence has damaged the pursuit of SIMI’s core political objective — creation of an Islamic state.
    Target Gujarat

    Gujarat has been a high-priority target for SIMI jihadists and affiliate organisations like the Lashkar-e-Taiba ever since the 2002 communal pogrom in the State. Most SIMI cadre involved in these operations could never be arrested, raising the prospect that some, or all, are involved in Saturday’s bombings in Ahmedabad.

    Maharashtra-based SIMI bomb maker Zulfikar Fayyaz Kagzi, for example, is thought to have built a sophisticated suitcase-bomb planted on the Mumbai-Ahmedabad express train in February 2006. However, an error in the timer circuit resulted in the bomb exploding only 12 hours after the scheduled detonation time, by which time train cleaning staff had deposited the suitcase in an empty corner of the Ahmedabad station.

    Fayyaz is known to have caught an Iran Air flight to Tehran on May 9, 2006, and is thought to have escaped across the Zahedan border into Pakistan.

    In May 2006, the Intelligence Bureau penetrated a massive SIMI-led effort to execute large-scale bombings in Gujarat. Investigators made over a dozen arrests after recovering 24 kg of lethal Research Department Explosive, packed in 10 computer central processing unit cases, along with 11 assault rifles and ammunition. SIMI operative Zabiuddin Ansari, who led the cell, succeeded in escaping the police after a high-speed car chase. He was later reported to have left for Bangladesh.
    Training with Lashkar

    Police later discovered that a Gujarat seminary student, Khalid Sardana, had been sending SIMI volunteers for training with the Lashkar in Jammu and Kashmir’s Poonch district since late 2001.

    After the 2002 pogrom, the flow of volunteers increased. Sohail Mohamamd Sheikh and Zamir Ahmed Latif Chhabiwala, who were arrested by the Mumbai police in 2007, told investigators that they had discussed assassinating Gujarat police officers linked to the pogrom with the help of their Lashkar handlers. Sheikh and Chhabiwala are alleged to have trained at Lashkar-run facilities in Muzaffarabad and Bahawalpur, Pakistan, in the summer of 2005.

    Courtesy: The Hindu
     
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    #76
    After 9-11 there were thousands of people dancing in the streets.
     
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    #77
    A very valid question indeed. No Muslim leader will come to condemn this because deep inside this news is good news for them!
     
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    #78
    :rolleyes:

    Also it was roundly condemed by every Muslim country, including Iran and most organizations including Hezbollah.

    Why didn't you mention that? Try dropping your agenda for once.
     
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    Everyone should just die and get it over with.
     
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    The islamic terrorists are trained in the Lashkar camps for attacks against India. The Pakistanis started both the Lashkar camps and the Taliban but now they are unable to control them.

    At the same time Iran is building nuclear bombs.
     
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