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The great Senator Jesse Helms and moral activist dies.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by homebizseo, Jul 4, 2008.

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    The great Senator and moral activist Jesse Helms dies. The leader of ideological purity. Perhaps his most visible accomplishments in the Senate came two decades apart.

    One was a 1996 measure that tightened trade sanctions against the Marxist government of Fidel Castro in Cuba.
    The other, a 1973 amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, prevented American money from going to international family planning organizations that, in his words, “provide or promote” abortion. He also introduced amendments to reduce or eliminate money for foreign aid, welfare programs and the arts.

    There is a typo in the title. It should read.
    The great Senator Jesse Helms dies..Moral or Immoral activist, you decide .
     
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    Helms didn't go to Washington to be a yes man for any president, Democrat or Republican. He looked out for the high moral standards of Americans.
     
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    No. only a moral standard for being racist. You need to do a bit more research on the man. Unless you are one of those people that still run with "the good 'ole boys"
     
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    Helms was alert to technological change, especially the importance of direct mail, and readily signed fund-raising letters that helped conservative organizations get started.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Let's all remember some of Jesse Helms moral stands:


    While working on the primary campaign against Frank Porter Graham, Helms helped create an ad that read, "White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races."​


    He also wrote, "Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced."​

    Helms had close ties to the rightist Salvadoran death squad leader Roberto D'Aubuisson and was considered a main sponsor of D'Aubuisson's political party, the Nationalist Republican Alliance.[7] When confronted with evidence that D'Aubuisson ran death squads that systematically murdered civilians, he replied that "[a]ll I know, is that D'Aubuisson is a free enterprise man and deeply religious."​

    Helms' referred to the University of North Carolina (UNC) as the "University of Negroes and Communists." (Charleston Gazette, 9/15/95) ​

    Soon after the Senate vote on the Confederate flag insignia, Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) ran into Mosely-Braun in a Capitol elevator. Helms turned to his friend, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), and said, "Watch me make her cry. I'm going to make her cry. I'm going to sing 'Dixie' until she cries." He then proceeded to sing the song about the good life during slavery to Mosely-Braun (Gannett News Service, 9/2/93; Time, 8/16/93)​


    Another ad featured photographs Helms himself had doctored to illustrate the allegation that Graham's wife had danced with a black man. (FAIR 9/1/01, The News and Observer 8/26/01)​


    After a protest during his 1986 visit to Mexico, Helms opined: "All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."

    Helms once claimed that "The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."


    I am sure he was a fine man to those who agreed with his positions, but to call him a moral activist can only mean that you agree with the disgusting moral positions he took repeatedly throughout his life.
     
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    Helms developed a reputation as an ideological purist. His record in the Senate has been consistently anti-United Nations, anti-Communist, anti-government spending, anti-welfare, anti-arms control, anti-foreign aid, and pro-military. His only major political about-face was his 1985 switch from an anti-Israeli position to one that is pro-Israel - one said to have been prompted in part by the narrowness of his 1984 victory over an opponent who received substantial contributions from pro-Israel individuals and groups outside North Carolina. He was a firm believer in smaller government. Something lacking by most of todays politicians.
     
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    What is an "ideological purist"? sounds like something good as long as it coincides with your ideology
     
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    Anti-United Nations, anti-Communist, anti-government spending, anti-welfare, anti-arms control, anti-foreign aid, pro-military and smaller government .
     
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    I am anti-United Nations, anti-Communist, anti-government spending, anti-welfare, anti-arms control, and pro-military .... Although I am not a racist bigot. I guess that is where Jesse and I part ways.
     
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    Jesse Helms did have some faults but his want for states to have more power and less government was dead on.
     
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    Joe Goebbels comes to mind. :)
     
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    LOL not even close.


    Jesse Helms served three decades in the U.S. Senate and became one of America's leading crusaders against communism, liberalism, tax increases, abortion, homosexuality and affirmative action.Sometimes called the patron saint of the New Right, he developed a national following and helped set the nation's conservative social agenda.

    He was effective at raising the issues that would draw media attention and raise the passions of his constituents. He supported prayer in public schools, free enterprise, a strong military, a balanced budget and "decency, honor and spiritual and moral cleanliness in America."

    Helms was courtly, Southern and unpretentious. He had an aw-shucks, folksy personal style that many found engaging, and he had genuine rapport with the rank-and-file voters of his state, many of whom saw him as a classic political outsider, unafraid to challenge the political establishment.

    Helms' opposition to social change and what he considered legislative overstepping led to his nickname of "Senator No," a title he came to relish. In 1977, he denounced a treaty advanced by former President Jimmy Carter to return the Panama Canal to the country of Panama. He blocked nominations for federal office, withheld funding for the United Nations, opposed gun control and threatened to cancel federal support for arts groups and school busing. An opponent of communism, he refused to relent on strict trade embargoes of Cuba.
     
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    Yeah, as I said, Goebbels & Co. also excelled in these areas, by a narrow view of "moral cleanliness." Loved fascista dictators, and their death squad goons, a bilious racist and buffoon. With peace to his ashes, and to his family, Helms was a blight upon American life that will not soon enough be, thankfully, swept away.

    Why yes, yes he was. Some of the most graciously delivered hate and ignorance in American history passed his pendulous lips:

    "There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that
    cannot be traced in origin to sodomy."

    "I've never heard once in this chamber anybody say to the
    homosexuals, 'stop what you're doing.' If they would stop what
    they're doing there would not be one additional case of AIDS
    in the United State."

    "What is really at stake is whether or not America will allow
    the cultural high ground in this nation to sink slowly into an
    abyss of slime to placate people who clearly seek or are willing
    to destroy the Judaic-Christian foundations of this republic."
    Jesse Helms (1990, on funding for the National Endowment for the Arts)

    Bill Clinton "better watch out if he comes down here
    [to North Carolina]. He'd better have a bodyguard."

    I've been portrayed as a caveman by some. That's not true.
    I'm a conservative progressive, and that means I think all men
    are equal, be they slants, beaners or niggers.
    Jesse Helms, North Carolina Progressive, February 6, 1985,
    quoted from the Democratic Alliance, "Yes, They Really Said It!"

    Dan Quayle
    "...in the l8 years and 5 months I've been in the senate, none, none
    have been more capable than Dan Quayle."

    Democracy used to be a good thing, but now it has gotten into
    the wrong hands."

    "All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the
    volatile reaction." stated by Helms after Mexicans protested his
    visit to Mexico in 1986 to investigate allegations of political
    corruption.

    "Atheism and socialism -- or liberalism, which tends in the
    same direction -- are inseparable entities. When you have men
    who no longer believe that God is in charge of human affairs,
    you have men attempting to take the place of God by means of
    the Superstate."

    "To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem
    in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he
    doesn't have a natural instinct for rhythm and for
    singing and dancing."

    "The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint
    that's thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic,
    and interfere with other men's rights."

    When a caller to CNN's Larry King Live show praised guest
    Jesse Helms for "everything you've done to help keep
    down the niggers," Helms' response was to salute the camera
    and say, "Well, thank you, I think."

    New York Times and The Washington Post
    "The New York Times and The Washington Post are both infested
    with homosexuals themselves."

    The Post, he charged, "caters to homosexual groups.
    Just about every person down there is homosexual or lesbian,"

    If God had wanted us to use the metric system,
    Jesus would have had 10 apostles.

    I was with some Vietnamese recently, and some of them were
    smoking two cigarettes at the same time. That's the kind of
    customers we need!
    Jesse Helms, US Senator from North Carolina,
    at a dinner to promote the state's tobacco industry, 1996
    Source:BQ

    "Your tax dollars are being used to pay for grade school
    classes that teach our children that
    CANNIBALISM, WIFE-SWAPPING, and the MURDER
    of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior. ''
    Part of the text of a fundraising mailer sent out by the
    Helms campaign.

    University of North Carolina (UNC)
    "University of Negroes and Communists".

    (source: everywhere)

    Yep, good ole' timey American values. Speaks to our better nature, just what De Tocqueville saw as a virtuous citizenry. :eek:
     
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    Besides the race issue.

    He led the nation with economic policy and free enterprise. Thats why he was elected for 5 terms.
     
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    Hahahah! Uh, yeah, besides the race issue, I don't really have a whole lotta problem with Imperial Grand Wizards of the KKK, either - great bunch of guys.

    Then there is the embracing of fascist-styled dictators, death squads, and the like, an utter ignorance of the true nature and scope of AIDS (continuing unassailably convinced of his pre-existing idiocies, science notwithstanding), a contempt for homosexual Americans, a contempt for a swath of Americans beyond, a contempt for commonly accepted principles of democracy in general.

    But other than that, yeah, swell guy. Real gentleman, and exemplar of the American ideal.
     
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    Defending the 2nd amendment, anti-government spending, anti-welfare and wanting smaller government. Those are the qualities that promote a successful government.

    Helms Principles


    Helms Foreign Policy School


    Jesse Helms was a Senator from North Carolina for 30 years. During his time in the U.S. Senate he served as a valuable leader for conservatives. Perhaps his most valuable leadership was during his tenure as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Foreign policy was especially important to the Senator and his work as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee made a significant impact for freedom around the world.

    In 1987 friends of Senator Helms helped create The Jesse Helms Center Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-partisan educational foundation located in Wingate, North Carolina, just a few miles from his hometown of Monroe. The Jesse Helms Center exists to promote the principles of free enterprise, representative democracy, traditional American values, and a strong national defense upon which former U.S. Senator Jesse Helms built his life and career. The work of the Helms Center involves education, historical preservation and public policy promotion through a variety of programs for students, scholars, and the general public.

    Shortly after Senator Helms left office, a void was created in the foreign policy debate. The Jesse Helms Center decided to launch a foreign policy program in 2005 entitled The Helms Principles. The programs that will utilize The Helms Principles include a grassroots foreign policy communications school, commentary on foreign policy issues, and various lectures and seminars with prominent speakers. The Helms Principles are comprised of three major components that the Senator used to guide his foreign policy.

    They are as follows:

    Protect Our National Sovereignty
    Our founders understood from the first days of our nationhood that no one can speak for America, but America. We can never be a party to any organization or agreement that removes from this nation the absolute authority to make our own decisions. While it is appropriate to seek cooperation among nations with compatible goals, it is never in our national interest to be a party to agreements that would give any other entity authority over our troops, our trade, our tariffs, our citizens or our policies.

    Promote a Strong National Defense
    The pages of political history stretching to antiquity illustrate the truth that there is no virtue in ignoring the danger created by insufficient defenses. Nations who have lowered their defenses, with the best of intentions, inevitably found themselves vulnerable to attack by nations with the worst of intentions. Our nation must be firm in its resolve to never have its autonomy or freedom threatened by any enemy. That resolve must be demonstrated by a military force ready to respond to threats to our domestic peace and tranquility from any place, and of any kind. Our military must have the personnel and materials required for any contingency and our people must prize both freedom and the responsibility for insuring it.

    Pursue a Moral Foreign Policy

    The pursuit of a higher good has always been a part of the American ideal. We are a nation of immigrants, seekers of freedom who have made it our business to welcome the newcomer. We are a nation of idealists, who believe that every human hungers for the freedom we take as our American birthright. We are a nation of brave men and women who know that words of comfort without action are hollow and useless. We are people who cannot ignore the plight of the abused or the threats of tyrants. The United States of America must always measure its foreign policy against the faith guided tenets of our heritage, not against the vagaries of current opinion or selfish self-interest.
     
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    I did. Helms Foreign Policy School I will go back and underline it for you. And where did I state anything about MLK? Nowhere.
     
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    And I love how you edited your first post and said it was typo. Uhhhhh Ok... If you are trying to show that Helms wasnt racist by putting in the last 3 photos does not say much for his track record on his racism and bigotry. Everyone who followed politics and knows anything about this guy is yeah so he served 3 decades and was known nationally as being a racist which says so much of the people of North Carolina. Nice try though.
     
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