Beware of 'Paid' Hand Submission Directory Services

Probably it is not totallly manual submission, if you use some software to fill forms it can be done faster but it is still worth 14 $ even for only 50 directories.

 

From what I understand - a family can eat for a $1 a day (breakfast +lunch +dinner)
So that would be 14 days of full meals

Sorry no red wine or gray poupon included

 

Hi,

I don't know if this person is talking about me, perhaps I'm not the only one offering manual directory submissions for $14 a 100 here. Also user says

, I'm a bit known here, but not in other forums.

Anyway I feel touched by this post and have chosen to make a point.

If this is not related to me, I'm sorry, editors: feel free to delete this post.

Coincidentally I had my first paypal dispute some days ago. A user opened a dispute out of the blue without prior notice to me.

Before the dispute I had the following email exchange with that user:



Hi,


Sending report.

Thanks,


Alfredo

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Hi,

Thanks but I have only received a confirmation from 15 or so sites?

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Hi,

I used

I did all the submissions today so you'll receive some more confirmation emails in the following hours/days.

One thing, you won't receive an email for every directory where I submitted.

Some emails may end up in your junk/trash folder, some may be stopped by spam filters.

If number of emails stays below 20 please let me know and I'll do 50 more submission for free, I'd like you to be happy with the service.

Thanks,


Alfredo
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Then, out of the blue I receive a paypal dispute notification! My reaction goes below:

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Hi,

Why did you resort to opening a paypal dispute? You could have contacted me first, I would have done more submissions or refund you the money in full.

I'm really sorry about this situation, if possible please contact me and explain why you decided to go this way.

I'm an honest merchant, and would have done anything within my reach to solve this issue.

I don't understand what was wrong with your submissions, but wanting to make things clear.

Waiting for your reply,


Alfredo

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Have never heard of him again till now.

I decided to immediately refund the user. This was the fastest option as I didn't want to argue over $14. I considered I had done my best so there was no other thing to do left on my part.

I don't think this user is acting in bad faith, probably he thought "100 directory submissions" meant 100 confirmation emails, perhaps he even thought he was going to get a 100 out 100 approval rate.

I can provide screenshots of my email account, paypal dispute, and whatever you feel suitable to prove my point strong.


I've been doing biz here for 6 months now, started two really successful threads offering my services, have an itrade of 40, have a nice paypal score (100+), been paid through moneybookers, westernunion, and moneygram too and everything went smooth, and ok I think this is enough.

Thanks a lot for reading this,


ALFREDO

 

Don't know if you talking about me, sorry if I'm overreacting, here goes a screenshot of my gmail, can resend report if you wish.

 

Practice Makes Perfect

 

Couple posts above this one, you can find the other side of the story.
Thanks for asking.

 

alfredo did work for me before... excellent work and response... highly recommended...

 

Thanks for your positive feedback!

 

I seriously apologize, but I never got the Email so can you resend it please? For everyone’s info, I was receiving conformation emails form directories a day before he said he would start the service for me. You don’t understand how bad I feel about calling you out man. Sorry about the misunderstanding, and you have every right to defend yourself/Rep..

 

Thanks a lot man for replying to this with a clarification. No problem, friends as usual, I felt attacked so I reacted.

Friends as usual

 

What just happened here: A says B is a crook. B says no. A says right, sorry, ok I will rep you. B has no problem and says A is a friend and grins violently three times!

 

Actually Ajeet, the thread was started by A, B concurred with A, C felt agreived so posted a rebuttle, B & C made up, But the original protagonist is amazingly conspicuous by their absense. WHich is a shame as unless they come forward sometime soon to comment, I fear they will be sent to red rep hell.

 

Aah, the red rep! The weapon of the valiant. The weapon that attacks the adversary and also leaves a minor scar on you.

 

I've been very happy with the submission services I've used on DP.
I guess the moral of this story is to contact the vendor, chargebacks and negative posts on forums can severely damage peoples business.

 

When did Shawn bring in the -1 cost for red repping? Bloody good idea if you ask me.

 

A couple of weeks ago I think. I agree, hopefully it'll mean red-reps are deserved rather than a vendetta!

 

I refer back to when I said that forum voting is very akin to trust rank. Now if you vote for a bad neighbourhood you get punished.

 

A point to note is that 100 submissions certainly doesn't mean 100 confirmation emails.

 

Absolutely Mad4 . Within hours of my order being placed, I received lots of confirmation emails, and they kept counting. I also received the Spreadsheet within 2 days. Have I checked? NO , WHY? Because I know that the guy has earned his money. Daily we receive emails about acceptance. If I received 20 confirmations for $14 then I wouldn't waste my time checking up.

 

Exactly, not all directories send confirmations anyway.