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Do you think muslims are really terorrists?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by abdobasha2004, Jun 10, 2008.

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Do you think muslims are really terorrists?

  1. yes

    16 vote(s)
    21.1%
  2. no

    60 vote(s)
    78.9%
  1. #1
    I am a Muslim and I really want to know how Europe and USA people think of us?
    from our point of view we think Qaeda is terroris it also attacked many Arab and Muslim citizens

    Some also says that qaeda is an american organization that benefit USA an Saudi Arabia

    also if you visited a muslim contry plz tell your experience about people ..
     
    abdobasha2004, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  2. Clifford

    Clifford Peon

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    #2
    I don't think people in usa and europe think muslims are terrorists.

    I think many people know that terrorist groups are like gangs and they terrorize the population
    but that doesn't mean the population is the terrorists.

    I think you'll find some people over here who think that the real terrorists are the oil companies,
    and you'll find some who think radical islamists are terrorists,
    but I dont think many people think the average muslim is a terrorist.
     
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  3. okpara36

    okpara36 Peon

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    #3
    nope!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  4. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    No. Al Qaeda need to be wiped out, as do all terrorists like the people who bombed Amman in 2005.
     
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  5. brownkiwi

    brownkiwi Banned

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    #5
    No sane person thinks Muslims on a whole are terrorists. It is just sad that terror groups hide behind your religion.
     
    brownkiwi, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  6. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Bush, McCain has to work hard to wipe of 1.8 bil of "terrorists" on war against terror campaign.

    or maybe someone , somepower tryes to relate Islam and terrorism.

    But it is the fact that Islamaphobia is rising again in Europe much than in USA by some groups
     
    ziya, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  7. brownkiwi

    brownkiwi Banned

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    I doubt that. The groups openly use Islam as justification. They say their form of Islam is the true form and anybody against it is an enemy of their religion.
     
    brownkiwi, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  8. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #8
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:terrorism&oi=glossary_definition

    Yes, there are terrorists. Nearly every country in the world is guilty of terrorism.

    When you fly planes into buildings, that is terror.

    When you set off bombs in markets, that is terror.

    When you kidnap families that is terror.

    When you occupy a country and set curfews and police the streets with weapons, erecting checkpoints, that is terror.

    When you fire into a crowd of protestors, that is terror.

    When you incarcerate people without trial and torture them, that is terror.

    When you kidnap someone, fly them to Syria where they are tortured and beaten for years, then dumped naked on the streets of Morocco with brain damage, that is terror.

    When you incarcerate and dehumanize a human being, that is terror.

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    When you use chemical weapons on civilians, that is terror.

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    Politically motivated violence by military or civilians against civilians, is terror. I do not believe under any circumstance that attacking a military force is terror. The military exists as an explicit combat force, however civilians are non-combatants, and technically non-threats.
     
    guerilla, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  9. brownkiwi

    brownkiwi Banned

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    #9

    Great post right there. I like the break down.
     
    brownkiwi, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  10. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    No, I don't. There was a time, after 9/11, that I succumbed to my own prejudices, but I have come to another view since then.
     
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  11. abdobasha2004

    abdobasha2004 Well-Known Member

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    #11
    thats what i really think
    gr8 post
     
    abdobasha2004, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  12. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    Thanks. I think it is very important for us not to get caught up too much in ppseudo-patriotic fervor, and to focus on what really constitutes terrorism.

    Terrorism is where innocent civilians get the short end of the stick. Anyone, east, west or middle east who attacks or coerces civilians, is a terrorist.
     
    guerilla, Jun 10, 2008 IP
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    I used to think that moslem fanaticism was based on either lack of education or act of desperation, mostly in third world country where there are plenty to complain about. Its no excuse, but understandable

    I don't get it when someone with high qualification such as doctors etc would detonate bombs in a crowded airport
     
    tonyran, Jun 11, 2008 IP
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    Suicide bombing is an act of terrorism, but it's causes are not based on religion, wealth or education. Suicide bombing has overwhelmingly been in response to occupation as per Dr. Robert Pape @ the Chicago Project on Suicide Terrorism.
     
    guerilla, Jun 11, 2008 IP
  15. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #15
    Those who follow the Quran literally are terrorists.
    Those who follow the way of live of Mohammad literally(according to Haddiths and Sunnahs} are terrorists and will be defined and charged under international current laws as terrorists.

    Fortunately, most of the so called Muslims are different today compared to the Islamists.

    I just follow up a research from our editor about the looming civil war in Indonesia. Islamists v Moderates, something the international community seems to overlook or not taking it seriously yet. http://westminsterjournal.com/content/view/163/1/

    I have visited various Muslim countries and feel and felt that there is no Freedom of any kind. People are living in a kind of agony, with no joy of live and no happiness which is usually free to take.

    Common moderate Muslims are nice and disciplined, but lack freedom.
     
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    #16
    I think a lot of europeans see muslims as terrorists because of what we see on tv everyday, you know?

    I doesnt mean that muslims are actually terrorists, but, since we get a lot of misleading infos, we tend to see you guys as the bad guys...

    In fact, shitty and non independent media is dragging world into a deep hole...
     
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  17. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #17

    Hi, it is clear you have not read the Quran which tells us to live in peace with everyone even if they are not of same religion, for God loves peace.

    You can read the Quran here :)
     
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  18. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #18
    God loves peace, Mohammad didn't and has disobeyed God in that matter and this is clear and obvious from his lifestyle.

    I'm not going to read anybodies interpretation of what it means or could mean.

    If I get a text book in math that says 1 + 1 = 3 and need somebody to explain that it is not so and that it means 2 or something else then where we are?

    I read the original translation of the two Qurans which are considered to be the source of Islam and Muslims.
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #19
    Muhammed was the most peaceful man to live :). I think you should watch the movie, 'The Message'.
     
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  20. cchetanonline

    cchetanonline Banned

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    #20
    ALL muslims are NOT terrorists
    but few of them are ....
     
    cchetanonline, Jun 11, 2008 IP