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Discussion in 'Payment Processing' started by richu, May 31, 2008.

  1. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    #21
    It is not the fees which is the main concern, it is whether it is right or not.

    Because I know with a credit card, you cannot use to 'buy' your own things just to get a cash advance.
     
    eddy2099, Jun 2, 2008 IP
  2. microbrain

    microbrain Banned

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    #22
    But here we are paying all the money instantly and I don't think there is anything illegal . Infect it takes about a month (min 15 days) to process all the payments from plimus to payoneer .. That may be the reason why plimus pay's out on the 15th of every month to bring some span b/w the payments so that to protect from cash advance :p !!
     
    microbrain, Jun 3, 2008 IP
  3. Hellfire81

    Hellfire81 Peon

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    #23

    Why should anyone "buy" their own things to get a "cash advance" instead of going to an ATM and get cash with their CC?
     
    Hellfire81, Jun 3, 2008 IP
  4. Hellfire81

    Hellfire81 Peon

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    #24

    He wrote that he talked to Plimus staff so there is nothing against any TOS.

    Another thing: breaking TOS and doing something illegal are two VERY different things which should people think of. Nothing can be illegal here in any way
     
    Hellfire81, Jun 3, 2008 IP
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    androomidaa Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I absolutely agree with hellfire
     
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  6. Pal

    Pal Active Member

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    #26
    Can someone verify his paypal by this card? for example Indian can use it for this purpose?
     
    Pal, Jun 4, 2008 IP
  7. Mohamed_Mnafeg

    Mohamed_Mnafeg Greenhorn

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    #27
    I have an Indian friend use payooner card
     
    Mohamed_Mnafeg, Jun 4, 2008 IP
  8. muhammad arif

    muhammad arif Well-Known Member

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    #28

    LOL, i am a bit confused in your statment.What means by illegal, don't you understand. It simply means you are misusing their service. You are just using them to cash you money, while they don't work for it.

    You are actually trying to use them as money exchanger.


    Arif
     
    muhammad arif, Jun 5, 2008 IP
  9. muhammad arif

    muhammad arif Well-Known Member

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    #29

    That seems to be childish...do you think it true that plimus staff will allow you to do this childish kind of job with their site, like posting your project on thier site and then buying by your own, just to cash your payment.

    I can challeng this statment to be absolutly wrong.Even if you think it as true lets email to plimus, and will get a proof.

    For more plimus is not concerned with its fees, but it seems more over its reputation in the industry. If they allow people to buy their own projects, then it will dibolish their reputation among web masters, as no one will go there to offer his services, because there will be an image that all of their memebers are only there to buy their own projects, and not for others.LOL

    So what i mean is, that plimus will never allow you to use them as money exchanger, from virutal paypal money to real one, as in this case you are using them as excahngers.



    Arif
     
    muhammad arif, Jun 5, 2008 IP
  10. eddy2099

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    #30
    http://www.plimus.com/prohibited.shtml

     
    eddy2099, Jun 5, 2008 IP
  11. Hellfire81

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    #31

    You marked 2 things bold: financial services and currency exchanges. But if he "buys" a product from himself he doesn´t sell a currency exchange nor any finacial services so there is absolutely no breaking rules
     
    Hellfire81, Jun 5, 2008 IP
  12. eddy2099

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    #32
    Well, he 'buys' a fake item, there is actually nothing shipped and he is both buyer and seller, I doubt that is really a real sale. If you look deep into his intentions, it is still financial services between it is money to money transfer.

    He cannot bring the excuse that he is testing the shopping cart or the purchase experience since Plimus allows for such testing.

    He would inevitably have his name and details as both merchant and customer.

    You might not think it is wrong because he pays the fees but paying fees does not make things suddenly right.
     
    eddy2099, Jun 5, 2008 IP
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    #33
    how much can last this method of getting paypal funds in payoneer?
     
    bluray50, Jun 10, 2008 IP
  14. muhammad arif

    muhammad arif Well-Known Member

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    #34


    I think Eddy2099 have clearly answered it.


    But let me mention my opinion.

    According to the guy he has to buy his own product, so it means he wil sign for two accounts merchant and customer.

    He is paying the fees like for an exchange.

    Exchange doesn't means that yuo get covert your paypal to mb or mb tro paypal respectively but excahnge simply means to get an sahpe of money for withdrawl.

    In this case the guy simply buys his item through paypal and then withdraw the payment through payoneer or thourhg check. So what does this means, it simply shows that he is excahnging the money.

    And up to the discussion of fees, thats not an excuse, he is paying the fees for an exchange because he needs to withdraw his money from paypal. So he is paying the fees for the exchange and not for using the service.


    Be practical.



    Regards:
    Arif
     
    muhammad arif, Jun 11, 2008 IP
  15. nakata

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    #35
    iwas too trying third party to send money via xoom and that all legally but now xoom will discountine cash pick up to morocco i want to try ur trick but u said that dont support free emails like yahoo gmail which emails must i have then?
     
    nakata, Jul 15, 2008 IP
  16. eddy2099

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    #36
    Why not just withdraw to your bank account. The Cash Pick up is a very dangerous option because it can be abused to use for money laundering since with cash there is no cash trail. If you withdraw to a bank account, the money is traceable and people who generally do not engage in illegal money transfers would not have a problem with this.
     
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    #37
    Why don't you get a virtual USA bank account from payoneer, then you can withdraw paypal funds without using a third party like 2co or plimus.
    Also buying products your self is prohibited in 2co, I don't know about plimus.
     
    blog8491, Jun 29, 2009 IP
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    #38
    you cannot load the card using paypal. period

    its only possible if you can acquire a payoneer virtual US bank
     
    the_pvaseller, Oct 28, 2009 IP
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    #39
    Payoneer card can be loaded via VCC, I tested it. This is a good trick to get cash within 2 days from a paypal account in anywhere.

    Thanks
    Blog.
     
    blog8491, Oct 28, 2009 IP
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    pintonbd2 Well-Known Member

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    #40
    in bangladesh .. it takes about 45 days for me
     
    pintonbd2, Oct 28, 2009 IP