How Other SEO Expert guarnatee ranking in 5 - 15 days?

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  1. YesBrilliant

    YesBrilliant Peon

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    #21
    Exactly. Another dp member described right here on dp a step by step guide how that IS possible. Not for every keyword/niche, certainly, but definitelly IS doable.

    And you do NOT need to wait 2 weeks.

    :eek:
     
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  2. DollaradeConner

    DollaradeConner Active Member Affiliate Manager

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    #22
    Robert25 and YesBrilliant, I'm guessing you guys are talking about Google news?

    It's possible to get rankings like that however if it's a new site, I can pretty much guarantee you it will be done using black hat methods. Hell there is a thread here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=97090 where a guy did some clever cloaking and redirects (I think), got a few billion pages indexed in Google and outranked MSoft and other major websites.

    If you have an established site that's properly optimized and you want to target a long tail term by creating a new page under that site, then yeah it's definitely possible without getting on Google's bad side.
     
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  3. godsofchaos

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    #23
    Yeah it really depends on the keyword. Those who say that, surely user blackhat tactics and will get you banned or marked as a troublemaker in the future. Stay away from them. I can confidently say that I'm quite seo savvy, and I assure you that rankings ain't that easy to sustain. It takes relentless work and dedication to get the job done, hence we charge the so called 'high price/week/hour'.
     
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    #24
    It is TOTALLY possible to rank on the first SERP for many keywords and it can happen in 24 hours. i've done it, several people have done it, it's nothing new. of course if there is more competition for the keyword it can be harder... but it is possible to dominate keywords OVERNIGHT if you know what you're doing.
     
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  5. javi

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    #25
    I think the operative word here is competitiveness. If you're the only one pushing a particular keyword then what you're saying is entirely possible.
     
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    #26
    Its not black hat for sure. It is some what create a content which will have a buzz.See cloaking and redirects cant give you that kind of results its for channelizing mass traffic.
    I would advice you guys to study some social media and daily updating authority sites.

    And one more thing this method really work for low competitive or long tail keywords.:)
     
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  7. placeboeffect

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    #27
    I think a lot of this has to do with perception. I could approach a company and show them how I got the top ranking for "ABA Paper Company" and they would be impressed, of course there was no competition for it, but most people don't really understand how this all works.

    Another big factor in getting super quick ranking is taking advantage of parasite hosting. Look at how quickly an ezine article can get ranked.

    Matt
     
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  8. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #28
    It's possible, i haven't tried "Online Casino" but i know for a fact it's possible to hit front page for "Viagra" in that time frame which has 3 times more results then Online Casino.
     
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    #29
    well, it depends on how the site been optimize. You can say that it will rank for specific date but can't predict what will be the position.
     
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  10. Elee

    Elee Well-Known Member

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    #30
    We have nearly a dozen websites and have been looking for a good SEO company or person for over a year. We have tried NUMEROUS companies or people, but have not found anyone who could optimize our sites that resulted in better SERP. We want only 'white hat' techniques used, and most "assure" me they can achieve better results, but none have produced results.

    If anyone is interested in discussing optimizing our sites about personalized invitations, announcements and greeting cards, please contact me. Thanks
     
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    #31
    "I'm sorry but everything I have read here is all wrong. Yes, if the word is competitive it is more difficult, but not impossible."

    Uhmm ok, so you're saying you could get a site to rank for "Online Casino" within 5-15 days? I'm sorry but you'd have to spend hundreds of millions and even then the logistics of the work of all those thousands of people during those 5-15 days wouldn't be a guaranteed success. So yes, it's impossible to guarantee 5-15 days ranking on the most popular keywords.
     
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  12. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #32
    Yes it's 100% possible, and for around $450 with one person on their own.
     
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    Alan Murray Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Can you back up your claim?
     
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    #34
    Sure, just search Viagra there's 2 URL's on front page that are only a matter of 2 weeks old.

    Or "Buy Viagra" there's www.bebo.com/ViagraO9 on the front page that's even date stamped and it's 1 week old.

    Watch the SERP's.
     
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    #35
    Yeah, www.bebo.com/ViagraO9 is really in the top 10. :eek: all hail to sweetfunny. I don't suppose you'd share how you did it, would you? hehe
     
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    #36
    Ok, i'll take viagra for 450USD:) Serieus, you mean you personaly could do it theoretically in two weeks with approx 450USD budget, or do you mean that the people behind those sites are doing it with as little as 450USD?
     
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    #37
    If that was true you would be a muti-billionaire and would not be wasting your time on DP. Spend your $450 and get first page for online casino and rack in $10k+ per day in referal ad clicks.

    All people that guarantee the type of results this thread is talking about are scammers to some degree because even if you get someone to the first page of google for the keyphrase 'Top Airplane Seats with Plastic Covers' they should demand their money back because no one will ever search that term.

    Plus I would bet anyone that is spending their time jacking viagra sites to the first page is not doing it with purely white hat SEO.
     
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  18. YesBrilliant

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    #38

    Robert25 already summarized what I'd say. It's not black-hat, not even unethical, just paying attention to what is "buzzing" and you will understand. Google news may be part of it but less than a third. And we are talking more about getting traffic than being indefinitelly on the first page, since the latter needs maintenance what is better achieved with an stablished site.

    The thread you mentioned above is new to me and may not be relevant anymore, 2 years old. But nice to learn.

    The other example about the Viagra serp is not related to what me and Robert25 are talking about. The Viagra page is using a new trick, a vulnerability on Google's algo and may dissapear soon. I don't use that one but that is another way to be on "first page in 5 to 15 days", showing everyone that it IS possible. Again.

    It is not because some people (not you specificaly) don't know how to do something that it is impossible.

    One good example is Microsoft. Many people are angry (jealous?) because they are big, too big, and so they "had" to have done things "ilegally or unethically". No. They are who they are, successfull, because they had the brains and the guts to do it, and they did it.

    Most people don't have it and then they say: "oh, it's impossible".


    If we could read more, learn more, practice more..., we would be saying "impossible" much less. And I read, and apply, approximatelly 50 times more than each post I write here on dp.
     
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  19. Alan Murray

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    #39
    Is that bebo page yours?
     
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  20. DollaradeConner

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    #40
    sweetfunny, how do you check when an individual URL was created? To my knowledge, the only possible way, and this only goes for the main domain not the deep pages, is to perform a whois. Also, and please I don't want you to think I'm trying to attack you, but I don't see the bebo page.

    I think we have to step back a bit. As with any SEO, if they say they can achieve certain results, don't you assume they mean a natural, regular organic ranking your site? If I hired an SEO and they exploited some vulnerability in Google's algorithm (which I would consider to be black-hat) to get my site ranked and say 'here you go!', I'd be angry! On the same note, if they used Google news to get a link to one of my articles and said 'here you go!' I'd likewise be just as angry. And again, if they used a third party site, let's use Craigslist as an example, created a post on that site which got indexed on Google in 2 hours and gave me first page rankings for my terms, however the SERP pointed to the Craigslist ad which only had a link to my site, I'd be angry!

    These types of quick SERP rankings are usually just that... quick!

    Couldn't agree with you more.
     
    DollaradeConner, May 22, 2008 IP
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