Protecting yourself from invalid clicks & climb bombing

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by Insomniac487, May 16, 2008.

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    I haven't built my website yet, but I was about to until I had 2nd thoughts. Reason? invalid clicking & click bombing. Some people say people are too paranoid. Isn't that normal? Knowing you put some serious hard work, effort, and countless hours into building a website...only to have it click-bombed and banned by some evil person who is doing it for fun, or simply to compete and shut you down (competition). Sure, some people say just to report it to google and they'll let you continue. But when it happens again, and again, google will stop giving chances and ban you permanently, forever... and it seems a TON of innocent people are getting punished for someone else's fault.

    I did a search here at the DP forums and came across various threads and the only thing people seem to talk about is "AdLogger". Some say it still works, some say it doesn't. I don't know what to believe. Even if it does.. its not 100% protection-guranteed. A smart person would use proxies (go under a different IP), or simply open multiple windows/tabs and start attacking from there. So I was just wondering, what is everybody using nowadays to protect themselves?

    And why hasn't google developed a system that will take care of it all? Something like, hiding ads after 1 click per IP address... or not credit the webmaster after a click (in a certain amount of time if its from the same IP address). Something like that. Have people suggested this in the official "Google Adsense Blog"? If not, I'm sure we all could pitch in and write them a email or something

    until then... i'll probably hold off starting a website. Investing a lot of money ($170, for a 2 year hosting plan + domain. bluehost) into this, only to have it ruined by evil people is a very.. scary thought.
     
    Insomniac487, May 16, 2008 IP
  2. Chad Sexington

    Chad Sexington Peon

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    #2
    This is the big question. There seems to be many easy solutions to this problem but Google just does it their way.

    I was also wondering about this when I first started and the only solution I've ever heard on this forum is to check regularly and report it to Google if and when it happens.
     
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  3. brainet

    brainet Active Member

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    #3
    right now google did not over any invalid click or click bomb protection to the publisher. :eek:
     
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  4. m0g

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    That has already happen to me once, and I did report it to google.
    200 impressions + 50 clicks = VERY STRANGE !

    That happen last year, and google only told they were monitoring my site to see what was the cause.
    Until this days I don't know who clicked.
    Maybe a competitor in my nich, maybe some angry dude, who knows ?

    Now put yourself in this scenario:

    You go on vacations, and you have no way to monitor your adsense clicks, and when you come back you see you got banned ! now what ? :|

    This sucks, and google should protect us, but it seems google doesn't care, and it's up to you to be or not be banned. :\ Shame
     
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  5. geekology

    geekology Well-Known Member

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    There are programs like asrep which can give you some idea of your clicks origination IP. Incase you get the "dreaded email", you can show some proofs to them.
     
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  6. m0g

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    Doesn't that goes against adsense TOS for monitoring their ads ? :confused:
     
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    geekology Well-Known Member

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    I don't think so.. can you show me the Adsense TOS which says monitoring is not permissible?
     
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    danimal Active Member

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    #8
    as long as you don't modify the adsense javascript, it's shouldn't be a violation of anything?

    i don't know how well these click monitoring solutions work, tho
     
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  9. corb

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    You could always use yahoo's publisher thingy...that's a good non-paranoid alternative
     
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    #10
    Doing any kind of business involves some elements of risk taking.
    Of course you should always try to minimize your risks but they will always be there.
    Think of creative solutions. For example, if you plan to leave for a long vacation,
    ask someone to watch your back or get a laptop and do it yourself,
    maybe even remove the ads until you return.

    The most important thing is: Don’t let your scary thoughts hold you back.
     
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  11. infinity_grimm

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    i dont think it is against the adsense TOS
     
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  12. Insomniac487

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    #12
    I say, we should *all* write an email suggesting it. If we can get enough people to do it, they'll think about it and hopefully make it happen.


    oh yeah, i heard of asrep. But is it legal? Lots of people are saying it is, some say it isn't.. which is it?
     
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    Okay, I can answer this one from personal experience as my account was recently banned via clickbombing.

    I run a website called 'The best scams' (thebestscams.com) which talks about the Nigerian letter scam; I did get a few emails that were threatening of nature - but as I live in Australia I didn't take any notice of them. Then when I started putting adsense on the site they threatened to get me banned, now this had me worried.
    Unfortunately I couldn't stop them as google were no help at all.

    About 3 weeks later my account was disabled - and I appealed saying what had happened and what could I do about it?
    Google replied and said that they saw me as a threat to their advertisers and couldn't re-instate my account - and they thanked me for my understanding!! <- I was very insulted by that as I DON'T understand and the fact that they offered no help at all.

    There is no solution - just try not to annoy anyone.
     
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  14. FanAddict

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    #14
    Best way to get their attention is start a thread in the adsense section of their forum... and get everyone to post in there as to what they think. When it's 100's of pages long... then I bet you will see something happen!


    Asrep is fine to use... iv been using it for many years.
     
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    thank you all for sharing this all help......we must suggest them to something in it.

    fear is always on.
     
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    You guys should check Adsense click lock software: Click Here
     
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    #17
    That email you got that stated you was a thread to advertisers was just a "pre-written" email and not a human actually writing it.

    Takes few weeks in some case's to get a human from google to email you back and begin to explain things. (I'm prolly wrong about this though) Adsense ban's accounts daily but also approves new accounts daily so in the end they still profit.

    Google adsense needs more support people answering the email's. Just seem's like they don't have enough staff in the adsense department.
     
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  18. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #18
    we need a better protection this is for sure
     
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  19. sultanofseo

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    #19
    there is nothing to get paranoid about. i know there are people who get targeted of click blombing, but if we all keep some basic rules in mind, like how to behave online, how not to pick fight with people and piss anyone off, or not to brag about our income too much, then we are all safe. and even if we get click bombed, we can let google know before google contact us. if we end up being banned, we can appeal with supporting evidence and get the banned decision overturned
     
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  20. Talen

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    Thats pretty paranoid. Why wouldn't you start a website because of what may happen? Thats the smae thing as not crossing the street because so many people get hit by cars every day.

    If you are really that worried just don't start the website off with adsense. The sooner you start the site the sooner you get into the search engines. Use the first few months of the site to establish yourself then monetize.
     
    Talen, May 17, 2008 IP