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United States Heading towards a Depression?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by decoyjames, Dec 27, 2007.

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  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #1661
    Only possible if supply = ∞ or demand = 0.
     
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    #1664
    It will get very nasty! Dollar dropping, energy prices up, oil all time record high, our government spending out of control, a never ending war on so called "terror" that is bankrupting us...of course we are heading for the meat grinder. If you are middle or lower class it will be very very very painful!!!
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1665
    Yes, doom and gloom abounds.. Your country sounds like it has some problems... ;)
     
    Mia, May 14, 2008 IP
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    #1666
    I'd like to see population: 1 before I die.
     
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    #1667
    Do you understand what I wrote before about infinity + 0?
     
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    #1669
    This time round it is a real complicated thingy, with the sub prime crisis and the innovative way Bernanke handled the issue. It isn't easy to see where the economy is headed.

     
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    #1670
    I don't think Bernanke's solution is so novel as he'd like to make us believe. Frankly, he's just throwing money at the big banks and now they're moving into the process of shutting down the small and medium sized banks. Inflation is built in until at least the elections, and from there we have a bunch of "change" they want us to pay for.

    $5 gas by 2009, could go higher if Obama's new-New deal is debt financed
     
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    You want to talk about inflation. The housing bailout is killing the dollar. The Democrats don't know when to stop. Bush has threatened to veto a House-passed Democratic bill that would have the government insure $300 billion in new mortgages for failing homeowners. Bush called it a bailout for lenders and housing speculators.

    http://www.twincities.com/business/ci_9315263?source=rss
     
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    Where was Bush's veto pen when he was ringing up $4 trillion in debt?
     
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    It just happened to dry up at that point of time, they were using Made In China pens :)

     
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    Oil is at $129 and another housing bailout will make it hit $150

    The next step is the revaluation of the Yuan which has already gained 4% this year and broke the 7 yuan to dollar barrier. The current rate is 6.98 to the dollar. If that happens Walmart is not going to be cheap anymore.

    This is still a lot of unwinding to take place in housing and more bailouts will make the situaution worse.
     
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    The Chinese cannot artificially depress the value of the Yuan indefinitely. With the escalating costs of raw materials, they are going to have to revalue very very soon....

     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I think Chase is either in trouble, or may be setting themselves up for sale...
     
    Mia, May 20, 2008 IP
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    Chase isn't in trouble, I get offers from them every week to borrow against my credit line at a 2.99% rate for life. My mailbox is stuffed with all this credit, they're doing just fine.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Actually they are in trouble.. I get offers like that as well...

    Those same offers they send out asking you to borrow are generally followed up by cancellations of credit lines, and revaluations of existing CURRENT mortgages, by current, I mean ones that are in good standing.

    Chase has given out so many bad loans they are now killing lines of credit, unused lines, and devaluing current valuations on current homes that do have equity in them and are current in an effort to scale back their own de-valuation.

    Chase is either in some serious trouble, or looking to sell.... Wait and see.
     
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    Oh ok. I just got the odd thought that my mailbox was an economic indicator. How silly of me.
     
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    Chase is part of JPMorgan Chase. JPMorgan Chase is getting ready for a severe recession similiar to 1982. Howver, this one could be worse ... The worst recession since the great depression. 1982 was bad. Interest rates topped 20% and by November 1982, unemployment reached, nine million or 10.8 percent, the highest rate since the Depression.

    JPMorgan Chase CEO James Dimon: "The recession just started."

    "We're thinking there's a third of a chance that it's going to be pretty bad ... closer to the 1982 recession than the very mild recessions we had in 2001 and 1990."


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080512/ap_on_bi_ge/jpmorgan_chase_ceo;_ylt=AlQZQjmUNb.3IVWEFptaO_SyBhIF
     
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