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Why Obama want to use military action against those who want to damper our energy?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mistoovrool, May 7, 2008.

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    These were his words before he was elected to the US Senate. Do you think he would like to take those words back? Otherwise, should we expect the US Military to go after the Sierra Club for their actions?
     
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    tribulus Peon

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    Source?............
     
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    He is more well known for his views on a rapid withdrawal from Iraq, I doubt he is keen on war.
     
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    If he gets into the White House he will do exactly what he is told to do buddy.

    Withdrawal from Iraq is not an option.
     
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    Sad but true. Not to mention, that when Obama gets in, you are going to have a likely Dem majority Congress, scratching and clawing to get to the feeding trough.

    NPT mentioned a while back, that he though Obama could be a bi-partisan facilitator (paraphrased, that's how I understood it).

    But I think the most heroic thing he can do is be a non-partisan Patriot.
     
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    He'll be a disaster mate, but I think he will be less of a disaster than the other two. The thought of Insane McCain being President scares the absolute fucking shit out of me.

    Oh boy, whichever way you look at it it's not looking good for your country buddy. :(
     
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    I worry that it is going to get a lot worse, before it gets better. A lot worse.

    But at the same time, I hope it doesn't. I hope we can make some better decisions that get us on a more positive track.
     
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    tsenseless Active Member

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    GET READY AMERICA, FASCISM HERE WE COME!!

    See, the fact of the matter is, regardless of who is president, they all have the ability to use and would not revoke legislation/executive orders that George W. Bush lovingly set up for us. If hillary clinton is in office, the [fake] conservative right would have an easier time defeating her legislation due to the populace's dislike of her from times gone by. If it were Obama, he has enough of the mass brainwashed into believing he's pro-america, so that he could practically get away with anything. Or you have the LBJ/Kennedy style presidency run where by Obama gets killed by Hillary (If anyone still doubts kennedy was killed by LBJ (or higher), please look up the name "E. Howard Hunt"), and then hillary takes presidency, blames it on Iran and starts WW3 as LBJ did with the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident.

    You want to know what will defeat them? If as many independent names as possible get on the ballot for local government, Even running for office at the local level of City, County, Or State would be a great help to stop the aproaching tyranny. The way that the founder's designed america is that the local governments actually super cede the federal government and can overrule federal legislation. When the 'New World Order', 'Globalist Agenda', 'Corporatism', or whatever you want to call it, took over america, it started at the local level, and we as free people must do the same. The US is still the last bastion of true freedom in the world, and the ideals of which she was founded will live on. Fight for your right to party?

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    Obama Backs U.N. Bill to Disarm Americans
    By Congress Check in Police State on May 8th, 2008 | Edit

    Four Winds 10
    May 7, 2008

    This is just in from Sen. Coburn’s office. Obama has authored a bill, and it is now in the Senate, to give the UN .7% of our GNP to be used to feed hungry 3rd worlders, AND to use UN force to disarm you and me and all gun owners. No one in the media has brought this to the attention of the general sheeple out here.

    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:48 PM
    Subject: RE: Obama’s bill S2433 passed the committee and going to the Senate

    Senator Coburn is blocking this bill.

    Patrick Guinn

    Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for “food” to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.

    The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation.

    The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.’s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to “banning small arms and light weapons” but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.

    http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_SN_2433.html

    Detailed Summary

    Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

    Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.

    Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports.<br>

    Defines specified terms.

    Status of the Legislation

    Latest Major Action: 4/24/2008: Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 718.

    http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-on-barack-obama-s2433-global.html

    More on Barack Obama’s S.2433 : Global Poverty Act

    We know for a fact that this bill will cost America $845 billion above and beyond what America already spends on global aid in the next thirteen years. America will be locked in to giving .7 percent of the U.S. gross national product. That in itself is scary enough, but there is way more to Obama’s bill. It also locks us into United Nations Millennium Summit. Cliff Kincaid from Accuracy in Media is all over this bill. He writes-(Underlined by me)

    The bill institutes the United Nations Millennium Summit goals as the benchmarks for U.S. spending.

    “It is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day,” a statement issued by supporters, including Obama, said.

    Specifically, it would “declare” that the official U.S. policy is to eliminate global poverty, that the president is “required” to “develop and implement” a strategy to reach that goal and requires that the U.S. efforts be “specific and measurable.”

    Kincaid said that after cutting through all of the honorable-sounding goals in the plan, the bottom line is that the legislation would mandate the 0.7 percent of the U.S. GNP as “official development assistance.”

    “In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning ’small arms and light weapons’ and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child,” he said.

    Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims.

    Kincaid also reported Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the “Millennium Project,” confirms a U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP would add about $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already donates overseas.

    And the only way to raise that funding, Sachs confirms, “is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels,” Kincaid writes.

    On the forum run by Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, one writer reported estimates of taxes from 35 cents to $1 dollar a gallon on gasoline would be needed.(LINK)

    This ladies and gentleman is the Barack Obama vision for America . WND called Obama’s office and the others who support this bill….No comments.

    See Obama’s Global Tax Bill (S.2433)

    Change Obama can believe in: Socialism?
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    This crap pisses me off so much. Add this to Obama's recent elitist comments about gun grabbing, and I'm really turned off.

    How any President can commit to fighting global poverty, when this country has not conquered it's own poverty and inequalities is beyond me. There is no mandate in the Constitution for a President to put the welfare of foreign nations before the welfare of his own country. In my opinion, ideas like this constitute treason.

    If the information regarding the Bill is correct (I have to research this further) ... :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
    guerilla, May 9, 2008 IP