Mass Producing BackLinks Damages Ranking?

I've just been in discussion with a couple of people on here who said if you posted 10,000 backlinks in the space of a week or so there will be absolutely no penalty set on you by google.

I've heard from a number of other people outside DP who say that creating a lot more than 50 backlinks (referring to directory submission) a day may get you penalised by google.

I was told to play it safe and only submit to a maximum of 50 directories in a day.

 

Non-sense, as you've been told in plenty of other threads already. Use this thing called "common sense", if Google or any other search engine penalized a site for getting backlinks to fast then someone could do it to their competitor to knock them out of search results. Same concept as with paid text links, Google only penalizes the "seller" and not the actual buyer; even though the buyer feels the effect since they no longer recieve juice from where they bought the text link.

Plus, directory submissions are one of the lowest, non-relevant value backlinks you can get. Spend your time better building quality relevant backlinks; you do this by providing quality content someone would want to link to. Stop catering to search engines and start catering to your visitors.

 

Depends on the directory, i wouldn't personally say that directory backlinks are low quality, i use them a lot and get a lot of benefit from them.

How would you get 10k submissions done to web directories in a week? you would have to be using paid and foreign ones too.

The other way is the services that promise you the nonsense like hundreds of thousands.

If you could manage 10k in a week, using whatever method, there is something that would cause you problems, thats all the anchor text (titles) that would be the same.

 

I was gearing more towards the fact directories aren't considered relevant and most search engines devalue their links; not all directories but easily 98% of them. Not to mention the massive outbound dilution from all the links on one page.

As always pipes we can agree to disagree. +REP

 

Firstly, I was told in one other thread. By 2 people. I want better proof than that.

Secondly, common sense tells me that if I spam the internet with links to my site, I will be penalised. I realise that people would do this to damage competitors but Google is smart and would surely recognise this happening.

Thirdly, I write plenty of content/articles on my forum site, I cater as best I can to my visitors. I use backlink building to increase ranking so that I have more visitors to cater for.

 

So, because 2 people told you something in one thread and I'm the only one telling you something else in another that makes them both right? Why don't "you" prove me wrong and source your proof on the subject? The fact is no creditable source is going to make this statement. This forum is full of mis-information and mis-guidance, very few people have a concept on what they are talking about. You should learn who those people are.

 

I have tried it a quite few times, new and old domains submitted to thousands of directories. If you want better proof, buy a $1 .info domain and see for yourself.

The problem occurs because a lot of the people who hammer their site to thousands of directories really have no idea, so they commit other common mistakes such as stuffing their pages full of keywords and so on then incur a penalty and blame it on the links.

 

Not to mention Google's Matt Cutts makes some what the same statement regarding penalties and paid links; which would make people assume building links too fast can generate a penalty. Again, common sense comes into play.

I swear sweet I'm going to make another L.L.C. for shits and giggles called "Common Sense SEO L.L.C."

http://www.searchenginejournal.com/matt-cutts-addresses-bad-linking-and-google-penalties/6417/

 

Yes i will agree to disagree also

Yes with general directories, if poorly managed, then not relevant.

 

Two people said that aggressive link building doesn't damage rankings and one of them was you. You keep saying "common sense" but I'm failing to see any real evidence to prove one of us right or wrong.

I realise that if you posted 1000s of links in a day and got penalised then you would just spam your competitors links. However, why have I been told by several different people that this is going to damage my rankings? There must be a reason right? Or are they all just misguided and misinformed?

 

But, in general we agree that you can get penalized for building backlinks to fast is a myth. So, why go on about the value of directories anyways... we know how to get real quality backlinks anyways

 

You've had 2 people in this thread who are well respected tell you their opinion, you can gladly link me the thread and\source of your information and I'll gladly review it. I've even given you a link where an actual Google employee gets some what on this subject. The fact of the matter is you can't build 1,000s of links in one day anyways. Just because the link goes live doesn't mean it will be crawled that day, hell it could take 2 weeks before any search crawlers even find the backlink. Shall I say my favorite phrase?

 

Ahh the Shyboy incident, yeah he contacted me to see what was happening with his site before it hit Google Groups then spread round to all the SEO sites and Matt Cutts.

These link building penalties are typically a case of "Post hoc ergo propter hoc"

 

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Now that has to be one of the top 10 funniest quotes I've seen on wikipedia yet. </off-topic>

 

And who says those who have told me that aggressive link building will harm your ranking are less respected than you guys.

I appreciated what you're saying, but until I see any sort of physical evidence that backs up your arguement I will continue to ask the question.

 

Who said I was talking about myself? Last I checked 4 people are talking in this thread. Like I said before, it doesn't matter to me how you optimize or market your site, you can believe whoever you'd like, even after you've been quote a "creditable" source that is by Google's lead anti-spam engineer. I'll make it a note not to answer your threads anymore so I don't cloud the mis-information highway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Cutts

 

It appears you've taken my posts personally. I literally am just looking for an answer with real physical evidence and I haven't got one.

 

I gave you a direct link to a interview with Matt Cutts from a respected SEO blog which is linked to by Matt Cutt's blog, not to mention the wikipedia article about Matt Cutts. What more "physical evidence" do you require?

Take it personally.... no. Upset that your contending mis-information that others will read and probably take into account with their optimization.... yes.

 

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I think I preferred the other explainations. Including the one that was entirely irrelevant.

But thanks.