Bluefind Directory

Well, my categorie (and others) now show nothing on the toolbar, and using the SEO Chat PR tool it gives a change from 5 to 0... Now this is really bad

 

I have 4 sponsered listings in good cats, one is PR7 - The PR doesn't seem to be passing well imo. I am also getting like 1 unique visitor per day if i'm lucky.

 

Something weird is going on.

Both my listings were PR7 & PR6

http://www.bluefind.com/dir/2128.php
http://www.bluefind.com/dir/2886.php

Now when you go to these pages the toolbar is showing gray.

When I've looked in Google these pages are no longer indexed in Google - which means I've had dropped 2 very good links to the site. My own PR has reduced from PR6 to PR5 which could be one or the reason why it's reduced.

 

bluefind was penalized almost a month ago now over a weekend. You are just seeing the after effects now.

 

Fist I have heard about it. was it for buying/selling PR? Do you know of any discussion on the subject?

 

I think it was discussed at seo-guy's place, if I remember correctly. Quite the few people noticed that the links were not helping them at all, then it was noticed that almost all of their pages were dropped from cache and dropped into the supplemental index. John came on to say later that they had been talking to someone at google and it was just a glitch, and it was being fixed. It hasnt been. Their pages still do not pass PR or ranking ability either apparently, and now, after this PR update, it appears they never will. Obviously PR updates are not influenced by pages being added to the supplemental index or anything else except inbound links, so a glitch won't explain this one away.

 

I've seen a few posts where people showed that Google was reporting links from Bluefind as actual links, but it's never happened for any of the sites I listed.

I have a sports site listed here and just noticed there's no cache for that page anymore...

It's never appeared as a link to my site in Google, but the page was at least cached until recently. My link was the second or third one listed on that page too so it's been there for months.

Wonder if Google whacked them for buying and selling PR? They built the directories PR primarily from advertising with Internet.com right? Wonder how that fits into this situation.

 

No offence to you WilliamC, but after John Scott slamed you and banned you in his forum for something about your business (something I know nothing about or have any opinion on), I would tend to look for information / comments on Bluefind from someone who doesn't have a beef with John.

I'm not defending John or Bluefind, or saying you are wrong or are painting the situation one way or another, but while you have a major beef with eachother I'd like to hear comments from others on this one thanks. Just the same as I would look for comments from people other than John on your business.

 

Domenic, I agree 100%. There are a number of threads on the issue out there, of which I am not even a participant.

 

I would think it was more the way they sold the listings, talking up the PR aspect of it all.

 

So just out of interest if they are penalised and they have linked to you, you can't be penalised .. right?

I'm right to also say if we lost a PR7 and PR6 links this could be why our site has reduced to PR5? (along with other links that could of reduced on other sites!)

 

If a site is penalised, IMO it cant hurt you if they link to you.

It could be the reason for the PR decrease if that is what has happened.

We have seen (last update) when yahoo went from 10 to 9, there seemed to be a redistribution of the total pr weight within the index, effect many sites which were weak pr5's going to pr4s and so on.

Also noticed a change in the value of internal links [less powerful].

Also noticed internal pages which had links from other sites enjoyed higher than expected pr and serps.

A lot of changes really, but I am not in any kind of position to say I think this is how it works now, just what I have noticed with our sites.

I am waiting for someone to publish an argument or results from testing to suggest TSPR has been implemented though, that would be an interesting read.

 

What's TSPR Dominic?

 

Quoting myself from the V7N forums...

I'm now waiting for an answer from John to see what will he say about this issue.

 

Topic Sensitive Page Rank (TSPR)

Google Search

 

I'm the only listing in a cat that was created for me a couple of months ago. That page was of course a PR0 but with the new update has gone to PR3.

I have been extremely happy with bluefind.com (except that now I find this page is no longer being cached. hhmmmm...)

 

This was the reply from John...

I feel like someone is throwing sand to my eyes...

Anyway... let's see how this is going to end... it's a one fee submission so...

 

That's the part that sparked my interest too. Up until recently (this post is made me look and notice) the page I was listed on was cached...now it's not. I knew from the beginning that there's a risk associated with spending money on direcory submissions, so I'm not complaining about. More curious as to what is happening and why. If they were penalized for some reason, knowing that reason could potentially save any of us some time and aggravation in the future. If they are not penalized, what's with all the pages that are no longer indexed

(I have two other listing at Bluefind and neither one of them shows a cache of the page either)

 

From what I've read in other forums, the directory had a over 20,000 pages removed from the Google index - this was due to a "glitch" in Google, according to Google, and they quickly included the pages back in the index.

Firstly, I'm very surprised Google have admitted that they had a glitch, as they are very careful not to give too much away to webmasters. All I know is that $80 worth of links I paid for (2 links) are no use.

I know that there is a risk with directories, but something has gone wrong, maybe they are being penalised for buying PR (Links) Who knows?

 

I'd like to see where they would actually admit to a glitch, I don't see it happening to be honest...