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What happened to honesty???

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tfbpa, Apr 25, 2008.

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    Lately I have been seeing a lot people trying to deceive others by saying that their website are pure quality, have never been dropped, have had PR for a long time, etc. etc.

    Problem is that when you do some basic checks to see if their claims are correct, it is within seconds very obvious that the domains are either expired domains, have no backlinks at all, are just registered and in general are nothing what the sellers say they are.

    What happened to being honest and doing honest business???

    Do they really think everybody is so stupid that they will not find out that the sellers are being dishonest by claiming things that are just not true?

    Worst part is that more and more people are doing this. Of course it happened a few years ago as well, but lately I find that +/- 90% of the sellers use this technique to screw other webmasters. It really is a shame and people should be hold accountable for their lies.

    Sorry, but I had to vent this as I get really upset when people try to screw other people. Maybe there are not many people who can spot a link scam, but to me it is very, very obvious that the sellers just want to earn a quick buck, screw over other webmasters and go their own way again. To me this is just unacceptable, just do honest business and you will stay in business a lot longer and therefore make more money in the long run. And isn't that what we are all here for, to make money?

    Just try to make an honest living and don't lie to people, that is just not done!

    Thanks for listening and hopefully the screwing-other-webmasters-by-lying will become less and maybe even stop all together.
     
    tfbpa, Apr 25, 2008 IP
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  2. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I always believe the good guys win in the end. Those that are dishonest can trick others once or twice, but sooner or later they will be exposed.
     
    wisdomtool, Apr 25, 2008 IP
  3. sbongo

    sbongo Peon

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    #3
    any tips on how to do the basic checks?
     
    sbongo, Apr 25, 2008 IP
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    Nick_Mayhem Notable Member

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    I think they sold their honesty for dollars :(

    I also feel that way. But as wisdomtool suggested. I think the good guys will win in the end :)
     
    Nick_Mayhem, Apr 25, 2008 IP
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    bloggerman Well-Known Member

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    #5
    that's what we need to know before doing any business with them.
    because we can't stop them, but we can control them.

    so next time, avoid this kind of people.. and that's what i did all this time. simple.
     
    bloggerman, Apr 25, 2008 IP
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    jg123 Notable Member

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    Most often you get what you pay for, nobody is going to sell you quality links for $5 or $10 permanent.
     
    jg123, Apr 25, 2008 IP
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    chandan123 Prominent Member

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    i agree with wisdomtool . but money is the factor to get good links :p
     
    chandan123, Apr 25, 2008 IP
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    webwork Banned

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    #8
    Please share your tips
     
    webwork, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    chandan123 Prominent Member

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    google results , pr check i think ;)
     
    chandan123, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    argothiusz Well-Known Member

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    You get what you pay for, I guess. There is no such thing as honesty when money involved in it. :p
     
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    TheSyndicate Prominent Member

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    i guess it was gone with the ebook. So tired of all this PM me for your biggest secret ever.
     
    TheSyndicate, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    GameOver Well-Known Member

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    #12
    After a while you can sense when a site is crap and although there is some crap being sold, there are some great sites being offered.
     
    GameOver, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    dairyman Notable Member

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    Honesty takes a back seat when greediness drives the vehicle, where caution is the watchword :)
     
    dairyman, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I still believe that Honesty is still at the forefront of things. Greed is a short cut to disaster.

     
    wisdomtool, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    #15
    Honesty is the best policy
     
    pioneer1, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    kittyluver Notable Member

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    #16
    EAST OR WEST, Honesty is the best. You may think liars are winning the game, but they'll NEVER win in the end...
     
    kittyluver, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    bangalore Peon

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    Right.
    And why is that? It’s cosmic law. What goes around comes around. Do good, good will be back on you.
     
    bangalore, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #18
    What happened with the honesty ?
    What happened witl love ? feelings ? friendship ?

    We live in a crazy crazy world that is all about money that's why :(
     
    w3bmaster, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    tfbpa The....Alive

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    Glad to know that I'm not the only one :D

    As far as "you get what you pay for", if someone offers links for a few dollars, yes then you know the links aren't quality. But I was talking about links costing $100+ for websites that weren't even one month old...

    As for how to check, this is what I do.

    1) check when domain was registered : http://whois.domaintools.com/digitalpoint.com
    2) check Archive.org : http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.digitalpoint.com
    3) check backlinks : http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:digitalpoint.com+-site:digitalpoint.com
    4) check related websites : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:www.digitalpoint.com/
    5) check nr of indexed pages on all 3 SE's : http://www.google.com/search?q=site:digitalpoint.com and http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/search?p=http://digitalpoint.com&bwm=p&bwms=p&fr2=seo-rd-se and http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site:digitalpoint.com
    6) check if pages other than the index page have PR

    You can check manually, but if you use Firefox the SearchStatus addon allows you to do all the above with just a few clicks : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/321

    Hopefully when everybody checks the websites before buying links, the sellers will stop lying as nobody will buy those links! :D
     
    tfbpa, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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    gauravgrt Peon

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    Honesty was raped by scam many years ago and now court case is goin on :D
     
    gauravgrt, Apr 26, 2008 IP
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