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Flushed from Google/Yahoo SERPS HELP please!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Artur, Mar 23, 2006.

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    Hi all, I bet you can help!

    My client's site has recently (2 months ago) suffered loss of almost all rankings on Google and Yahoo. The site has not been removed from indexes and there is nothing but original content on the site. There is nothing "black hat" in the background, no hidden text, anything like that. The site is clean. Google has 186 incoming links in its index, yahoo 63,200 links. The rankings on MSN are v.good.
    Page Rank is low ( PR3/2 ) so I dont expect site to compete for top terms, but at least niche ones (especially that 2 months ago the site was doing well in SERP'S)

    I buy links for this site from many different sites. The same linking strategy works very well for my other clients. NO other site has such problem and I'm using more/less same sources of incoming links.

    The site is quite young (1.5 years) but it used to rank high for at least niche keywords (very little competition), now it is on the very end of SERP's.

    It looks like Google/Yahoo put a filter on it. But WHY?!

    I've been trying to work out this problem for last few weeks- with no luck. It is driving me crazy!

    Please help!
     
    Artur, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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  2. Shoemoney

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    post the url otherwise who knows. Its possible the places you are buying from are recognized as bought links and devalued... but again who knows if you dont post the url
     
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  3. Artur

    Artur Peon

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    The url is: www.injuryadvice.co.uk
     
    Artur, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  4. Artur

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    if it devalued why are the links working so well for other 6 websites?
     
    Artur, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    www.mattcutts.com has said repeatedly that buying links is frowned upon.

    If you are just building paid links and they are all devalued then you are left with nothing.

    You say the other sites are fine but what happens if they suffer the same fate in 4 weeks time?
     
    mad4, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  6. Artur

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    I treat buying links as a shourt term strategy- they work for now and drive my clients traffic and business via natural search rankings.
    At the same time I am building permanent link popularity by submitting sites to quality directories and exchanging links with relevant sites.
    Buying links delivers results, but I am aware that it won't last forever.
    However, if Google is now ignoring all "paid" links, why is it ranking this site much worse than before? We've added many "good" links from directories, e.g yahoo directory?
     
    Artur, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  7. mad4

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    Maybe the paid links were helping the site before but now they have been detected and are devalued leaving the site with less quality links.

    I'm not saying this is the case and I didn't have a good look at your site but when you mentioned paid links it rang an alarm bell.

    The only thing to do whether its due to the paid links or not is build lots of good quality relevant links.
     
    mad4, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    The site is a spam site. No wonder is isnt showing in any search engines. There is nothing on there.
     
    BILZ, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    WTF? Artur please explain yourself :confused:

    Your site has no content and google only has one mention of the domain and no search engines have any links?
     
    mad4, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  11. Artur

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    the correct adress is: www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk

    sorry again, I'm overworked :eek:
     
    Artur, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  12. bloodwrath

    bloodwrath Active Member

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    Here is the website info
    Pages in google index
    Results 1 - 10 of about 175 from www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk

    yahoo index
    We did not find results for "site:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk".
    http://search.yahoo.com/search/dir?...o.uk&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&n=20&fl=0&x=drt

    msn index
    Page 1 of 1,031 results containing site:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk
    http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk&FORM=QBRE

    Google BL's
    Results 1 - 10 of about 23 linking to www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=link:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk/

    yahoo bl's
    Results 1 - 20 of about 63,200 for link:http://www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk/
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=li....uk/&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&n=20&fl=0&x=wrt

    msn bl's
    Page 1 of 29,562 results containing link:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk/
    http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=link:www.injuryadvice4u.co.uk/&FORM=QBRE


    I can tell you from my own personal experience google & yahoo doesnt like when sites buy site wide links
    and yahoo also dislikes none related links or so they tell me

    this would be trying to manipulate the search engines
    http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/deletions/deletions-05.html

    using seo elite to check your links
    you have lots of links on these sites
    http://www.zvon.org/ keyword no win no fee,uk
    http://www.developersdex.com/ accident compensation claim uk
    http://www.northtexaslife.com/
    http://www.cool-label.info/

    well you get the point
     
    bloodwrath, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    You sure you have been building links to the right place?:p
     
    mad4, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    Has your server been down recently?
     
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    Cutter: No, no problems with server.

    Thanks bloodwrath I see I neet to rethink and rebuild the whole link-building strategy.

    Let's say I would like to outsource link building for this site and wanted quality, relevant and permanent links for this site. The monthly budget is $200 to start with.

    Would anyone be interested?
     
    Artur, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    bloodwrath Active Member

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    Here are some services i have used and would recommend
    links
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=41482
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=47780

    Directory submissions
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=39282
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=27271

    Get articles written for ya and submit them to article directories
    going to be using for articles very soon
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=24398

    every 60-90 day release a press release
     
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  17. Artur

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    I will have a look
     
    Artur, Mar 24, 2006 IP
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    donteatchicken Well-Known Member

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    Yeah my lyrics site had 28,000 google results, but within a week of pulling the lyrics text and leaving only news rss feeds, and ads, google crushed it.. it's not existent lol.. they have so much control, it's amazing..
     
    donteatchicken, Mar 24, 2006 IP