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Al-Sadr Ceasefire unraveling?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guerilla, Mar 26, 2008.

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    Deadline for Iraqi militias as clashes intensify
    At least 55 killed and 300 injured as battles spread from Basra to Baghdad
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23788065/

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    Doesn't look good if Al-Sadr breaks the ceasefire. Their lack of aggression over the last 8 months has been the key to less violence, not the surge.

    Edit::::::::

    Apparently the ceasefire has ended.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/31527.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/25/AR2008032500461_pf.html

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0326/p01s13-woiq.html



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    guerilla, Mar 26, 2008 IP
  2. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

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    You simply can't have a peace in any country in the world if you have several military forces or militias or any armed groups. It's simply impossible. It was just matter of time for peace to gone.
     
    iggysick, Mar 26, 2008 IP
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    So much for the propaganda of "THE SURGE" working.
     
    pingpong123, Mar 26, 2008 IP
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    guru-seo Peon

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    "The Surge" is total propaganda BS! This so called "Surge" does not work!...unless you have 1 American soldier monitoring 1 Iraqi...24/7!
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    The Iraqi govt gave them 72 hours to surrender, I don't think they will even bother about the ultimatum. This really spells trouble for the John McCain election campaign.
     
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    A clue to what more may happen in the future.
     
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    The fighting against Sadr's militia by the Iraqi security forces is a sign that the surge is working. The Iraqi security forces now have enough confidence to take Sadr on. This the first step for the Iraqi people to take control of their country from the militias and terrorists.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I would beg to differ, it is only a few months, you can't do miracle in a few months to train a rag tag bunch of militants into a well organized regular army. Sadr's militia on the other hand fights for a living, it is as common as eating and sleeping. I heard that they are also quite well equipped.

    As the post earlier mentioned 250 Iraqi soldiers surrendered. This is massive surrendering. Only a large scale warfare can produced so many surrendered soldiers at a go, or they are too demoralized to fight?

     
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    Malaki has both his own militia the Badr Organization and the Iraqi special Forces.
     
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    Basra was controlled by the British government who left, now the terrorist control it and your surprised that they are causing havoc.
     
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    That is true that the surge had nothing to do with Basara
     
    bogart, Mar 26, 2008 IP
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    I would question that source very carefully mate. If that were to be the case all the MSM outlets would be all over it like flies around shit. There has been nothing at all about that story.

    @ soniquepost, our troops are still in Basra, at the airport, 4,100 of them, hopefully leaving Bush and his crazy neocons illegal "war" very soon. ;)
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    IMHO not very hopeful, Bush intend to stay there another 5 years or old. Hope like the temporary peace we have seen is going to evaporate soon. Maybe they should increase the incentives to $20/day per militant not to fight. As you known the greenbacks is suffering from such a high inflation, the militants might feel short changed :)

     
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    But of course.

    That said, we don't get bad news about the war, unless the media has a motive for telling us.
     
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    It's getting hot over there again.

    Al-Sadr militia prep for U.S., Iraqi fighting
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080405/FOREIGN/275149421/-1/RSS_WORLD

     
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    It looks like the ceasefire merely gave them more time to equip, train and prepare their strategies for further confrontation with the US forces. Looks like the real Surge is coming. If it is timed near the Presidential elections, McCain might be at a disadvantage.
     
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    True the real surge is coming but whos surge are we talking about ??????????
     
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    Definitely not McCain surge in popularity :) I guess the surge would be increased fighting in Iraq.

     
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    Al Sadr didn't start the recent flare up.

    The Iraqi President or Prime Minister (not sure which) Nouri Al Maliki is a political rival of Al Sadr. He used the Iraqi military/policy to round up and harass Al Sadr's Mahdi army members in Sadr City.

    The problem is, the Iraqi forces suck, and they are sympathetic to Al Sadr.

    Anyway, this is the kind of shenanigans that is going on under the Surge. Al Sadr is a nationalist, ironically, Al Maliki has strong ties to Iran.

    Everything is upside down. The bad guys are the good guys, and likewise.
     
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