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DMOZ Supports Child Porn?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by dvduval, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1521
    The DMOZ listing is important because it improves search engine listing and even gets them in Google directory, so it makes easier for a new pedophile to find and network with others. Removing the listing will make the process of these people finding each other more difficult.

    Other than that, we can also report all these sites to the organizations which I previously posted in this thread and also legal authorities. Some times is even useful to report it to their hosting company, some hosting companies are not aware of the type of site and remove it while others who specialize in illegal site won't care and keep it but it increases their cost.

    The other good method is to report it to search engines, most act responsibly and remove such results. At present time, we can not destroy all such sites but we can make it very difficult to be found by pedophiles.
     
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    lpstong Notable Member

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    #1522
    Yes save the sarcasm and accusations after the children have been molested and viewed by tons of pedafiles. Sure freedom of speech covers illegal activities. Please point this out where illegal activities are covered by free speech. Than I will shut my mouth and ask for forgiveness by those who I have offended.
    There is a difference between free speech and illegal activities. Adult/xxx/porn sites are legal by free speech not child porn sites. Children who are exploited in these matters have no say so. Where is the chilrens freedom of speech. Yes 2 to 10 year old children have the full concept of what sex is. Really is that freedom of speech? Or abuse of innocence. I dont think child porn sites are what the Adult porn industry really want to cover in their freedom of speech campaign. It does their industry a bad name.
     
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    sidjf Peon

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    #1523
    I realize there is a lot of thread here to read, and don't expect new comers to read the whole thing, but it would be nice if they at least got a general idea of what has been discussed and who stands where before they start spouting off things that make no sense...
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1524
    The freedom of speech is just a smoke screen. I can respect it if an organization like ACLU came up with such arguments because they are consistent in their defense of the different causes even if they don't agree with the person or the cause.

    On the other hand, when an organization like DMOZ that is built it's whole existence on censoring it's own editors and forums, start to defend pedophiles on base of free speech, it is just laughable and a joke. It seems some how admins in DMOZ respect more the right of pedophiles to free speech than the right of their own editors to free speech.

    Am I the only one who finds this situation ridiculous? Pedophiles are more protected than DMOZ own volunteer editors by free speech, after all we don't want to miss their important social agenda about how good it is to molest a 6 years old child and every little child need a man love. :rolleyes:
     
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    lpstong Notable Member

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    #1525
    Yes because we know it's perfectly appropriate for a man to being touching a little girl who doesn't even know herself yet. Right... DMOZ needs to get into gear and realize something more here. There's no excuse for child molestation. It's like saying oh yeah look there's a girl on the street lets get a camera and film a gang bang put it online and make millions. That's what child pornography is. Do you know where half these kids end up when they're older? Supporting such acts is a horrid thing.
     
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  6. lmocr

    lmocr Peon

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    #1526
    No Sh** Sherlock. And if you ever find anything like that in DMOZ - then please break all speed records in reporting it.

    Now if you care to discuss what this thread is about - please read up on it and stop posting things that make people ill. There is absolutely no reason for the last half of your post.
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1527
    It seems you are the one who doesn't read this thread or don't want to see and understand what you read. :rolleyes:

    There are many examples that describe how good it is for small children to have sex with adult men as I quoted in different post in this thread in DMOZ listed sites. It has been reported, mentioned in this thread and even complained about by editors in DMOZ but it seems the pedophile sites belong to special protected category of web sites that normal editors can not simply delete. ;)

    Freedom of speech for pedophiles, censorship for DMOZ editors, very logical. :rolleyes:
     
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    #1528
    Some people tend to believe so.

    This second part above is your opinion, right? While you are mentioning censoring there, besides e.g. resource zone not being a crowded forum like DP, I can't see this kind of censoring. Much more I think, certain editors are censoring themselves, the effect might be the same.
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1529
    I think many of editors have seen the light but the question will be, how many will have the courage to act on it. It seems for many editors, anything is acceptable, as long as they can get 1 extra link from DMOZ. ;)


    No it is not. It is real. read the rules about the conduct and how easy it is to get read of an "uncomfortable" or "noisy" editor. Ask yourself, why people need to discuss DMOZ issues in DP and other forums instead of RZ or internal forum. I think the link between DMOZ and pedophile sites or underground kinks will be disturbing to many volunteers, so why they don't permit a thread in general section and instead exile it to adult where it will not be seen by many. In your opinion, how many of DMOZ volunteers who are respectable parents or professionals will be comfortable to be connected to pedophile or bestiality sites? Don't you think they have a right to know what they have volunteered for?

    A while back, I posted in general thread that no government have the resource to police every citizen but by making an environment of fear, they can force every citizen to police themselves. The same thing has happened in DMOZ, they have everyone so scared that people will censor themselves.
    How many time have you felt the desire to tell the "AFFIRMATIVE VIEW" editors that either they are pedophile, corrupt or idiot but you had to censor yourself? How many times have you felt that you should tell Admins that if they are really talking about this then they should get off their ass and come up with a decision? ;)
     
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    vulcano Active Member

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    #1530
    gworld, I had a hard day and need some sleep, it is already almost 4 a.m. my time. Will respond to your post by tomorrow.
    One thing, not all editors are the same, it's like in real live. You have to get to know people, before judging.;)
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #1531
    I don't know about the situation in the states but I do know that the various police forces starting with the RCMP on down up here are diligently tracking down those who access or distribute child pornography, and the newspapers have accounts almost every week about some new arrest - last week there were two arrests in this area. A week earlier it was a story about the arrest for the same offense of a prominent actor featured in commercials for Alexander Keith India Pale Ale.

    Will that eradictae the sites completely? I doubt it. But just as the threats of litigation for downloading pirated music seriously impacted that industry, the ongoing arrests and prosecution and even more the widespread publicity the press is giving to these cases will I hope provide some disincentive to people who might think about hosting such websites.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Absolutely spot on, gworld. Excellent post!
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #1533
    Jesus H. Christ!

    You really do not have a clue what this is about, do you lmocr? Previously, you took offence when you imagined I was calling you a pro-pedophile. Well let me make my position more clear, now that I've had a chance to read more of your posts:

    I don't know whether you are a pro-pedophile, a pedophile, or just dumb as a stump but with your continued efforts to block and smokescreen criticisms of DMOZ on this issue and what by now should be the obvious resolution you might as well be all three.

    I've said this before: In an issue like this, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem. There is now not a shred of remaining doubt that you are part of the problem.

    Do yourself and the children of the world a huge favor and just shut the hell up! :mad:
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #1534
    I can only speak for myself, but I promise you that I am not scared. I have always felt free to express myself in internal forums even when I disagree with Admins or Metas. Although we do have rules for civil communication, I have never been told by anyone that voicing my disagreement is a problem. As long as it's done in a polite manner, it is perfectly acceptable to disagree with everyone.
    I have never censored myself. I admit, I'm very uncomfortable with how long this discussion is taking, but with every day that passes my expectations of the coming solution rises. I trust they will meet those expectations and I will be able to go on, happily enjoying my hobby.

    It's not about a link. I'm a true believer in dmoz. :)
     
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    lmocr Peon

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    #1535
    Show me one - just one - listing anything at all like that idiot posted about. The affirmative views listings need to be removed - but they are nothing at all like what that poster was describing.

    You've called me names before - call me whatever you want - I don't really care. I have as much right to post as you do.

    If I disagree with what someone says - I will say so. If I agree, then I will say so. Or I won't - it's my choice.

    You can call what I post a smokescreen, or anything else you want to call it, but if someone posts something that I think is incorrect, then I'll attempt to correct the misinformation. For example - in another thread - gworld posted something about "uniform military code of justice" - if I had read the thread earlier, I would have posted that the correct title is Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) - why? Because the title he used was incorrect - not to provide a smokescreen.

    Why is that so difficult to understand? Do you think that the only opinion or information anyone wants to hear is yours? Isn't there the slightest possibility that someone might be able to learn something from the information posted here? Wouldn't it be better to have that information be at least partially correct?

    Get a life - this isn't your forum - nor is it RZ - if you don't like what I post - let me introduce you to the ignore button - put me on it. But don't expect me to shut up just because you can't understand that you (and your friends) might not be right about everything.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    When will those listings be removed and it those are not removed, what will you do?
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #1537
    What will lmocr do, gworld? Exactly what people like her always do. Absolutely nothing. Because it is far more important to her to protect DMOZ and her position at DMOZ than it is to do something, anything that might be morally and ethically responsible but might annoy some Admin or Adult editor. :rolleyes:
     
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    Just to be fair, I want to point out that the majority of our Adult editors who have posted their views are not in favor of these sites being listed in Adult. Yes, I was surprised too, and have gained respect for some Adult editors that I never bothered to pay attention to before this issue came up, but it's the truth.

    I've learned a lot in the past few months. ;)
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    I'm somewhat surprised but pleased to hear that, Annie.
     
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    #1540
    Nice guess - but since you have no knowledge of what I have done regarding this subject (or any other for that matter) - a guess is all it shall remain. :rolleyes:
     
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