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Proof Bush Lied about Katrina

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yo-yo, Mar 1, 2006.

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  2. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    I have posted over and over. The army corps of engineers did what congress said, prepared for fast moving category 3 only.

    This is not news. I'd love to see Bush squirm, but this was set in motion about 35 years ago folks.
     
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  3. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    Bush knew what was going to happen = he made the weather!! Then he planted bombs in the levee and blew it up to make sure!!!! Then he tied up the mayor and governor to make sure they didn't ask for help right away!!! Then he made sure no one got on the busses and got out of town!!!!!

    Bush is the almighty powerful wizard of OZ!!!!
     
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    nOR Peon

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    Haha he sure is.

    President Bush You Are Mighty
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Well when you are relying on info from Ray 'Wonka' Nagan and the chocolate people, it's kinda hard to predict what might happen. Some day someone some where will likely show me exactly where all the money that the Federal Government has been giving to Ray and company over the years for the levies went. It's pretty much a given that NO was a ticking time bomb. But then again, when you live several feet below sea level, you have to kind of expect it.

    If anyone is old enough to remember Times Beach, there's another, "well, we did not expect it, but we did... kinda" episode in botched governmental and red tape. But then again, the idiots in Times Beach were on a flood plain.

    Ultimately who cares. What people should be doing instead of bitching and moaning about the situation is re-examining the problem, finding a solution to it, and then actually solving that problem. If anything can be taken from this experience, it is that if the Federal Government is going to give states money, it should have Federal Officials overseeing how and where the money is spent. It would probably be best to level NO and move inland. That or take a look at what they have done in the Netherlands. The engineers over there are friggin genius's.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    That sounds racist
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Hey, Ray said it.. Are you off your meds again?
     
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  8. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    Um er, it was and is the army corp of engineers. They were told and were financed to create and maintain a levee that would withstand a category three fast moving hurricane with a, I think, eight foot storm surge.

    Cat 4 was an 18 foot storm surge. They knew it and that is that. They knew it about 35 years ago.

    The engineers over in the Netherlands are not smarter, they are better funded.

    P.S. You are a racest for saying "chocolate people"
     
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  9. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, who cares that our president repeatedly lies to us and never takes responsibility for anything :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Ah, noppid, you have no idea what I am talking about do you. I am talking about the money that the feds have given to NO for about 40 + years to fix the problem. Not the quick last minute patches because they squandered the money.

    And you cannot spell. What the hell is a "racest"? Apparently you and ferretboy don't pay much attention to the world around you, or else you would know what the "chocolate people" comment is in reference to. You both have a lot of growing up to do.

    When backed into a corner, the children pull the race card as usual. Neither of you are going to get anyone to respect your opinions if you spend all your time acting like jerks.
     
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  11. latehorn

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    Well mayby I was wrong with claiming that the hurricane was made with TESLA. It is possible that it was made with HAARP.

    Nice avatar, yo-yo. Do you look like that for real?
     
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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    Even if he said the week before Katrina, holy shit, the levees suck! We need to save that town! Could we have?

    Even if he said that the day he was elected, he couldn't have prevented it.

    Look, the guy is a jerk, no doubt. But ya can't lay this on him.

    What's going to happen by the rules he makes and has made, he's no leader.

    Taking away minimun wage?

    Wait till the eminent domain stuff starts happening to clean up and build casinos.

    Those are things that he should be embarressed about one in fact, the other if it comes to pass.
     
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    They didn't have funding for 40 years. The Bush admin cut the funding when they invaded Iraq, and that is what I've read. NO is a federal city, so it was the governments responsibility to make sure the levees were strong and functioning properly.
     
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    Why bother, Bush can do no wrong in MIA's eyes. The man is untouchable.
    There could be a video of him giving golden showers to young boys, MIA would find a reason that makes it the young boys fault.

    "Well geez, look at the liitle shorts the bois were wearing, who could hold back from that? It's not his fault the bois are teasers."

    "Well just because there is a law against it, doesnt mean there is really anything wrong with it. I mean, Bush doesnt care about laws anyway so why is everyone so supprised. The important thing is he has realized he made a mistake. There is no reason to worry about the past, what we must do now is move forward and figure out how to fix the problem."

    ETC ETC ETC
    :p
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Can I ask why the people who used the money improperly aren't being bashed by you? We see you hate Bush already, but you can't give him credit for everything unless you think he is the smartest person in the world that he can pull off all of these things.

    How do you feel about those in NO who misplaced the money that was meant for the levees?

    How do you feel about the guys who refused to ask for help?

    (Also why do you say NO is a Federal City?)
     
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    I find it funny that Bush keeps talking about the breakdown in communication and that the press had better coverage of events than the government. They said this about katrina and now about the DP world port investigation.
     
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  17. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    For the same reasons you can't dind any faults with Bush and his incompetent Administration.
     
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    Noppid wrote:
    Corps of Engineers can learn a thing or two from The Netherlands ;)

    Bush could have prevented this! If he just took notice to the domestic problems that have been out there years before.

    The mixing of materials being used, construction types that don't connect, the various hight allevations, the holes in the levees in proximity of roads and trainrails are the ones that stand out the most.

    A thin steel floodwall that stands out the ground like a little skirt. As if the Gulf of Mexico is going to be stopped by such frail little skirts. A concrete wall on a levee that stops in the middle of nowhere...as if a titlewave would stop suddenly at that specific spot. Another concrete wall and then a floodwall but a meter lower...as if floods would addapt to the hight elavations of these floodwalls and concrete walls?

    Floodwals that wheren't drived far enough into the ground! Not ten or fiftheen meters to give any chance for resistance but merely five meters.

    To say Bush could not have prevented this is in my oppinion pure bullocks since it would be incomprehensible that he is not at any point in time being forwarnd or advised about this situation by people that look after the safety of the levees and other ''measures'' that have been established.

    Or does someone dare to tell me that there isn't such agency that handles these type of domestic responsibilities?
    It's Bush fault or maybe not since he doesn't have any say so in the goverment and he is merely a pawn used by corporate institutions and inteligence agencies as has been put forward before.

    Kind of makes you wonder if he is really a pawn. A bad leader lacking of any leadership qualities have been for sure already been proven.

    2 Days after the storm hit and the majority of NO was in agony and misery you see Bush on television talking about...

    How good NO is going to be rebuild in the coming years and how fantastic and beautifull it's going to look upon restauration.

    WTF?:eek: Like the people of NO that are starving and living in chaos give a fucking rats ass about that in that specific point of time...as if that is something they want to hear?

    They wanted to hear from their president that measures are being taken as he speaks and are in progress to SAVE them!! And having the assurance that what's been said is true. Not the bullshit about how beautifull NO is going to be!

    It would be even a couple of more days before the first rescue operation where taking place.

    Bush couldn't have prevented this?

    BULLOCKS!!
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    I place blame where I see the faults and put the responsibility up the ladder including bush. I don't defend Bush in areas cause I think he does no wrong, I just say something when people are only blaming him because of their hate, not because of logic or reality.

    Reality is the federal gov't gave toooooo much money over the years for the levees and someone spent it in the wrong ways - how does this make it Bush's fault?

    Reality is Bush should have just ignored the mayor and governor and just sent in help anyways, but then people would be blaming the chaos on Bush anyways.

    Funny thing is no matter what happens it somehow is Bush's fault. I bet Anthony still thinks Bush took his job away.....
     
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  20. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    Well it's kinda true. Maybe not solely his fault but he is a major F. up!
     
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