All phpLD Designers beware

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by smub, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    hello my fellow phpLD designers,

    i am writing this post to identify a scammer in your eyes so you guys stay away and don't waste your time.

    a few days back i got a custom design request and the guy paid me $150 (50% Down payment)

    In which i made clear that $125 is refundable and the other $25 is not if he doesn't like my mock up versions.

    Screenshot where he agreed in the pm with the partial refund.

    http://www.balkhis.com/downloads/reviews/screenshotpm.gif

    Well after two tries he was not satisfied with my design and he said that my skills weren't as good. (No problem)

    I issued the refund of $125 as i mentioned. Even after that i got a paypal dispute with saying he expects $25 more.


    In his last email:


    Now if you want to see the work i did

    http://www.balkhis.com/downloads/reviews/firstmockup.jpg
    http://www.balkhis.com/downloads/reviews/secondmockup.jpg

    tell me if that is not worth $25 ....


    There is the username of the guy at phpLD forums

    http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/forum/member.php?u=19501


    I dont know his digitalpoint username, but here is the site he will be asking the design for:

    RacingSpace.com and his example would be www.speedtv.com << Apparently whoever is designing he wants you to rip that design of even when he says he doesn't want it similar he wants it exactly like that.



    If you know his username here then reveal it. Otherwise just stay cautious because i am sure you don't want to waste your time.
     
    smub, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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  2. fear

    fear Banned

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    #2
    Just wondering what is his work?
    BTW Nice designs syed.
     
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  3. WallaceYeung

    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    #3
    I recommend you next time cancel the refund option,
    as I still needed to pay although the design is not what I expect.
    $25 is not a big deal but you can know what the guy is.
     
    WallaceYeung, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  4. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    lol i do not know he is one of those guys who didn't know that speedtv was not fluid ... and yet he claims to be in the industry for 12 years, and can do the basic designs that i did.
     
    smub, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  5. JamieG

    JamieG Banned

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    #5
    Smub, if this guy ever comes over to phpLynx we won't allow the design to be ripped okay, this is about good people joining together to protect our interests from idiots like this. Personally I wouldn't have given him a refund and will tell you via p.m how to avoid this if you ever want advice okay.

    $400 an hour? Nonsense, Lawyers are only on $160 on average. :rolleyes: The guy is clearly a scammer.
     
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  6. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    #6
    I must say they are nice and unique designs.
    dont refund him, you can win paypal dispute.
     
    MeetHere, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  7. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    well i m not ... i only issued the partial refund ... my $25 is still in my account ... but the fact that he opened the dispute shows the scammer part.
     
    smub, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  8. Chris01273

    Chris01273 Active Member

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    #8
    You should win the dispute. PayPal just need to see your terms stating $25 will not be refunded. Simply state $25 required for administration and set fees.
     
    Chris01273, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  9. marki8

    marki8 Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Nothing to say... but it's very not good
    your work it's ok for me
    i hope you report to moderator at phpld forum or asking for ip address.. and detect here
    It’s very important for protecting other members..

    p/s :sorry bad language and spelling
     
    marki8, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  10. humm

    humm बहादुर बच्चा

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    #10
    I will not want to comment on the design part. But you have done the right thing reporting the scammer. :)
     
    humm, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  11. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    the screenshot i posted and his acceptance ... i dont think paypal needs any more than that..
     
    smub, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  12. dargre

    dargre Peon

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    #12
    I'm afraid you can have a problem with PayPal's dispute.
    In most cases they take buyer's side, no matter what facts are.
    Especially when it concerns not material goods.
    It looks like they completely do not read dispute notes...
    That's really annoying :mad:
     
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  13. shadav

    shadav Active Member

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    #13
    well smub...I hate racing lmfao but I have to admit the 2nd one was very nice

    and how is it your fault that they do not seem to know what they want (aside from straight copying another site)
    you provided 2 very good layouts for them to consider and develop upon...I think that alone is well worth the $25

    but then again I guess I'm biast I like all of the work you do it's always high quality :)
     
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  14. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    dude forget about the value of the design ... because i know they were good and i put hard work... but the fact that i hate the most that we agreed on a deal ... as i posted the ss of the pm, and then he went to do a chargeback.
     
    smub, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  15. sizzler_chetan

    sizzler_chetan Prominent Member

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    #15
    Designs are worth it and the guy is a scammer.
    Dont you deserve $25 from him for wasting your valuable time? ;)

    Btw i should fix an appointment and interview him for an hour, $400 for that right? :p
     
    sizzler_chetan, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    an0n Prominent Member

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    #16
    Personally, The way I myself work things is; if they are not satisfied, they dont pay. That's just me though.
    However, in this particular casde, it appeared as though there was an agreement between the two of you, whereas if you could not come to terms on design, you were reserving the right to $25 of the $150 which was originally put down.
    I think he is in the wrong based on what you two originally came to terms with.

    Just my .o2.

    Rob
     
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  17. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    #17
    You so missed the whitespace in between the mans arm in the logo for the first mockup. Thats probably why he was mad. :)
     
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    #18
    Looks really good. Tell you what, since the person is apparently no longer interested in these designs, I will buy them from you if these designs are finished and if you give me a good price for these :D PM me for details.
     
    maxchanwl, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  19. lmhiih

    lmhiih Peon

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    #19
    can you actually win a paypal dispute? I thought you don't really stand a chance.
     
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  20. deluxdon

    deluxdon Catch Me If You Can...!!!™ Staff

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    #20
    Tell him that 'Your time personally is worth $1000+/hour' :rolleyes:

    DON.
     
    deluxdon, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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