Gaining 5k backlinks at once

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by whateverandever2, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. #1
    I have a friend who runs a free blog service and has offered to put my link at the top of each of his blogs as 'payment' for work I will do for him.

    My concern is its a lot of backlinks at once, around 5000 blogs, they are all themed towards my site tho.

    How will Google react to that? Its not a new site, its been around 4 years, should I do it or might Google question it? Anyone done this sort of thing themselves? Thnx
     
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  2. Chr1ssst0pher

    Chr1ssst0pher Peon

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    How many backlinks do you have for now? Anyway, 5k backlinks at once is pretty much and suspicious...
     
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  3. whateverandever2

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    Results 1 - 10 of about 5,150

    That's how many I have now according to Google.
     
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  4. Think411

    Think411 Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree with this though.... Look at the success Viral Marketing has. Viral Marketing is a HUGE amount of links all at once, and Viral Marketing shows up for good SERPs.

    Everyone always says that gaining a lot of backlinks all at once can hurt, but I'd like to see proof of that. I know Viral Marketing can work because when I see some new Viral Marketing site come through all of the blogs and myspace, if you do a search for it then it will normally have high SERPs.

    Just my .02
     
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    #5
    YOu must not focus on quantity
    It much better if its quality relevant backlinks
     
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    Interesting point Think411,

    but with the search engines being as fickle as they are I lean on the side of caution with this sort of thing.

    One thing people always go on aobut (including me) is quality links. I would look at those blogs and ask yourself, 'are they likely to be known to google as authoritative sites'. - if the answer is yes, then viral marketing, in this case the mirical of 5000 instant links would be seen as a positive vote for your site.

    If however, those sites don't have a strong relationship with google then it may reflect badly on you. (I don't mean relationship as in.. well you know)

    I have a prudent perspective on SEO, if it isn't natural or doesn't look natural to the search engines, i feel very dodgy about it.

    Maybe you would be better asking for those links to be added randomly over the course of one year.

    Also, try to only get 1 link from each site, that is more natural.

    Paul
     
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    Why should it question it, if a site suddenly took off, or was mentioned on the TV for some reason, it might gain such a rise in backlinks ?

    Woc
     
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    I have already said these are relevant backlinks, all in my niche.
     
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    As nalds20 said, (slightly more sysinctly than me)

    It is quality that counts. If your site takes off, great! If it takes off in a bad neighbourhood.. not so good.

    google understands the relationship between sites. there are so many factors that count towards your decision.

    relevance of links - which as you have said, they are relevant
    quality of the sites linking to you -
    hosting of those site - do they all have the same ip, will google recognise a relationship between them - this would the least devalue the links to you
    number of links on each site - ideally you would want on link one each site
    where the links are placed - the body text is the most natural place

    5000 links, with the same anchor text, in the right side bar, on sites with the same ip address... you see where im coming from.

    It might not kill your site doing so, but do you really know that it won't - so it comes down to risk assessment, what is the potential gain for 5000 links from this vendor?
     
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    Fair point

    These are all in my niche tho, so my thinking is, link wise 'it can't do me any harm', one way links from same niche sites.

    But it's the adding of them all at once that concerns me.
     
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  11. Think411

    Think411 Well-Known Member

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    From an SEO standpoint. Incoming Links can not hurt your website. The Publisher has no way of preventing any incoming links. If incoming links could hurt your SERPs then there would be a ton of people using blackhat SEO tactics to lower there competitions SERPs and to manipulate google MUCH worse they the manipulation that occurs from purchasing backlinks.

    The people who get hurt from purchasing links are the people who sell them, there sites get penalized. If there site is penalized then you just won't get any positive SERP or PR from there site linking to you, it wont penalize you though.

    So the 5k instant backlinks might not help SERPs or PR for the OP, but it should not hurt his SERPs or PR. Google only penalizes publishers for things that they can control, like content and what they do with it.
     
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    I still think that it depends on every specific case and that won't be a problem for Google to find out how those links appeared
     
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    humm, this is true Think411.

    My point was be careful you don't get yourself involved in what could look like a link farm.

    But as you say, you can't get stung for things you can't control.

    So, I guess you should welcome the links but with caution and going back to whateverandever2's original question about the links appearing all at once. If you are to benefit from them at all, a staged introduction of the links and preferably from different ip's and from sites that aren't obviously related would offer greater benefit than a fast blanket of links.

    Paul
     
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    From my experience i can tell you just NOT do do it.

    the most propably is google just to ban your site
     
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  15. Think411

    Think411 Well-Known Member

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    Google will not ban your site if you buy 5000 links, or even 500000 links.

    If this where true, places like TNX.net would have all there business coming from people buying links for there competitors in order to get them banned, rather then selling links to websites who want to increase there SERPs and PR. You can buy 5000 links for like $5 a month there.

    Google is against manipulation as much as possible, and if you could be penalized for buying links then a lot of people would be manipulating that to penalize other people.

    The most that could happen is the 5000 links would not pass on any SERP or PR.

    Speak on fact, not emotion.
     
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    DONT put affiliate links in the body of your text they are not aloud and you will have your DP account banned, they are only aloud in your signature links, you should read the TOS
     
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    as long as he sets them to "nofollow", there should be no problem.
     
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    Think411 Well-Known Member

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    Good looking out, I missed that in the TOS! +rep

    I interpreted the TOS to read that Spamming with affiliate links would get an infraction, not including it in a relevant post, but I removed it anyways, as you pointed out the TOS can be interpreted different ways!
     
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    No worries m8, i think any affilate link not in your sig links will get you in trouble with moderators.

    back OT

    i think your right in saying google wont ban you outright, i did something similar to a site last year, as long as the backlink have varying anchor texts you should be ok and would see a good boost in SERPS, however the site i did it on did loose all of its pagerank so as long as you looking for an increase in SERPs and NOT PR boost then give it a go.
     
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    i say go for it. who wouldn't want 5k backlinks? as long as it comes from relevant sites (which you say they are).
     
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