Digg Mastered - first come first serve team

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by ezprint2008, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. #1
    To get higher rankings SEO peoples havent been working together the way they should. Ive been testing out an idea and its showing that it works and the math makes sense.

    Take digg for example - those pages popularity is based on how many people digg their articles etc. Theres 20 spots of the top dugg sites on their homepage. The average diggs for those sites is between 300 and 500 diggs.

    IF you put a team together of 500 SEO's and webmasters etc . And then have all people on that 500 person take turns of 20 per day. So 20 people will post an article on Digg and the 500 peoples will vote for it/digg it.
    That puts those 20 peoples on the front page of digg. Then the next day , its the next 20 peoples turn etc. Do the math 500/ 20 = 25
    That means every 25 days when you take your turn, you will get a top spot on diggs homepage. If you make your article really interetsing, crazy, or popular news etc then others will see it on the Digg homepage and further vote for it.

    and Digg aint the only one. Websites are now being ranked by popularity and several sites like digg are showing to make it to Google fast.
    SEO's will be missing out by trying to go at it alone, because obviously corporations that have 2,000 or more people working for them are already doing that type of thing.

    So the idea is = put together 300 to 500 SEOs/ webmasters etc. and scout the Internet for sites like Digg ..where the math can be won. :)

    Attention:
    ---------
    looking for 300 to 500 peoples that want to be part of a SEO group to promote their own websites. Your 'turn' will be based on first come first serve agreement to take part.

    Anybody have better ideas?
    Think about it.. high SERPS mean everything to websites, theres posts here getting 1,400 views in a day. If thats 1,400 peoples.. then we've all been missing something.
    Let me know what you think.
     
    ezprint2008, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  2. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

    Messages:
    5,926
    Likes Received:
    270
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    280
    #2
    Hey, this is called cheating and manipluation of a web service, you attention caption should read "Looking for 300 to 500 people to cheat digg", all your going to do is help get 300 to 500 peoples websites banned from digg forever. Congradulations
     
    astup1didiot, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  3. ezprint2008

    ezprint2008 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    611
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #3
    You've got to be kidding SSAND..

    You're assuming its 'cheating' ..but nowhere has such a law , statute or otherwise been made. IF that was the case then corporations of al lsizes wouldnt be doing it.

    Imagine you have a corporation with over 2,000 employees, and you have a website. hmm...hmmm.. are you gonna pretend that they arent doing that very same thing right now?!

    SEO and SERPS is what it is ..we dont make the game ..we just beat it. Thats what its about. Furthermore.. no one can get banned based on speculation. Maybe those people just really liked the articles? Are you going to say that all websites will have a policy on speculation of who they assume doesnt really like content and who does? .. youre trippin out :)

    Come back and talk to us when your website is buried and not even registered on Alexa ..and 500 peoples have all major keywords in top 10
    LOL ..cheating, my buttocks. It's not black hat ..its called COMMON SENSE.

    We are presented with an Internet 'rubix cube' perse. Dont get upset when peoples figure it out. Puzzles are made for solving. and Solving the math to any system cant be called 'cheating' ..it is only = logic or common sense. take your pick :)

    To put it in even more simplistic explanation.. lets say things ar ebased off of cheese. and theres a giant mouse maze that was created. and everywhere you look theres mice cheating by climbing the walls and trying to cut holes through the walls, ..other mice are using secret radio walkie-talkies to tell their team if there's a dead end ahead or not. So what did we do? .. we figured out the math of how the maze was laid out , and we walked that way. Call it 'cheating' ?
    I didnt know the Internet was supposed to remain such a mystery? Did you read the Digg story about peoples in some countries so poor they have to eat yellow dirt cookies? So I think anyone could attest to the 'mouse maze' ..if you dont find a way to win.. you'll lose.
    Cheating..LOL
     
    ezprint2008, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  4. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

    Messages:
    9,205
    Likes Received:
    647
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #4
    it is shite like you who give SEO and online marketer a bad name
     
    ahkip, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  5. magda

    magda Notable Member

    Messages:
    5,197
    Likes Received:
    315
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    280
    #5
    You're assuming its 'cheating' ..but nowhere has such a law , statute or otherwise been made. IF that was the case then corporations of al lsizes wouldnt be doing it.

    No law or statute, maybe, but it is quite specifically against Digg's Terms of Service

    By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree not to use the Services
    with the intention of artificially inflating or altering the 'digg count', blog count, comments, or any other Digg service, including by way of creating separate user accounts for the purpose of artificially altering Digg's services; giving or receiving money or other remuneration in exchange for votes; or participating in any other organized effort that in any way artificially alters the results of Digg's services;


    and they will and do ban accounts and sites that they catch doing it.
     
    magda, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  6. ezprint2008

    ezprint2008 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    611
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #6
    Well i asked what your thoughts were on it :)

    Shite and Hitler psycho fest ..thats good, emotions are welcome.

    and besides I only used Digg as an example of what is possible.
    Can you show me any large corps that arent using that strategy I was showing you ?

    In the mean time I'm gonna demonstrate another one in real-time ..
    Views of the post.

    People always saying = "this or that is bad" ..guess what the highest ratings on any television, cable , newspaper , blog etc is ?
    it aint about niceities and your flowers.
    This was a a double blind experiment :)
    Lets see how many views..without anyone mass blogging telling people NOT to view it
    Do you want to see if youre right? or do you want to see if the facts are facts? ...remember, if you try to alter this expeirment in anyway it is YOU who wil lbe 'cheating'

    besides..i got the idea from watching this video on YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUldiczlxk
     
    ezprint2008, Jan 31, 2008 IP
    ssandecki likes this.
  7. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

    Messages:
    5,926
    Likes Received:
    270
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    280
    #7
    Your entire idea and concept would be cheating, plain and simple. -REP for still going on and on about your manipulative method and just not letting ago after you saw the negative response you got from a positive webmaster\seo community. :mad:
     
    astup1didiot, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  8. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

    Messages:
    5,926
    Likes Received:
    270
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    280
    #8
    Can you show me one that uses the deceptive methods to manipulate digg like services and search engine results? I doubt it, because a company plays by the rules when it comes SEO and search results, Google can ban your site and than poof thats it for your organic Google traffic.

    You must be new to this who SEO\SEM thing, people have had digg exchanges and stumble upon groups since they first came out, your "idea" is nothing new. Guess what, they usually don't do crap for SERPs. Just another idea to ruin a great service by not following the rules or the terms of service.

    Always the cheaters are the ones who can't succeed the correct way, its ok we all understand. :rolleyes:
     
    astup1didiot, Jan 31, 2008 IP
  9. ezprint2008

    ezprint2008 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    611
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #9
    ssandecki..
    Take a chill pill :)

    why? ..becaus youre FREAKING out. It was a question to see what people would think of the idea.
    If its cheating and in the Digg terms of service.. then dont do it. But the math itself, was good and i was asking for peoples opinions on it.
    Are you a moderator? if not, dont try to moderate my pleasant posts to other DP peoples. You cant sya "dont go on about it" ..LOL Im sure you talk to others this way in your life in a hitler-esque way. But here, we're free to explore ideas and talk about them. Have i ever done that to Digg? NO!
    But figuring out math systems and cycles of the SEO is what we do, and I wanted others opinions. You can put your broom away. Your opinion was obvious that you didnt like the idea, thats all you had to say.. it was you that is going on about it.
    Thank you and have a nice day :)

    And as far as nice little content. your profile reads:
    Interests:
    Is sex a hobby?

    And you have that civic Link in your posts ..is that REALLY why youre here? Just getting your snout out into every post you can, look the hero, the good guy, the bad guy when you have to ..just stay in the presence of peoples eyes and get your LINK posted a smuch as possible. Is that cheating? Do you really care about this topic..or are you just peppering those links around the blog? Spare me your Romeo and Juliet portrayal.
    Keep it Real :)

    On a nice note: Do you think this has or is being done by others?
    Its SEO's job to know ALL the possibilities and math and logic to systems. You dont turn a blind eye based on if you think something is 'cheating' ..it does NOT mean you have to go and do it, but to try to DETER people from knowing how the systems work..thats CRAP. Know all about the systems, see who is cheating them who isnt, and perhaps figure out NEW ways of doing things that are not considered cheating. also, a good topic to start = How much of the high SERPs do you feel are legit 100% 'non-cheating' placements? and how many do you think cheat?
    Get the white hats and black hats to talk about it ..good topic in my opinion- it seems to attract emotion, (or link plugs)
    And thats what Forums and bloggers like.
    Keep it above the belt, but make it an emotionally charged debate - DP wouldnt mind that I would assume.
     
    ezprint2008, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  10. iKid

    iKid Peon

    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    2
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #10
    First of all - its cheating.
    Second - abusing.
    Third - its unethical. :D
     
    iKid, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  11. ezprint2008

    ezprint2008 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    611
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #11
    thank you for that opinion.
    Pleasant :)
     
    ezprint2008, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  12. Heath

    Heath Peon

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #12
    I'm new to these forums - just starting out on the SEO road of enlightenment. I was wondering how 'ethical' this site might be, since a lot of SEO advice is unethical or involves cheating of some sort.

    The response to this post has been very encouraging :). I am glad to see this type of behavior shunned by the members.

    It may not be illegal – but its wrong and unethical. There is nothing ‘OK’ about thinking this way. Say what you will, but you’re only putting lipstick on a pig….
     
    Heath, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  13. ezprint2008

    ezprint2008 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    611
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #13
    ssandecki..
    Starting a whole new forum name to try to add a 'numbers of people' to your opinion.. is cheating. :) lol

    Heath = Join date Feb 1st 2008
    5 posts Today.. this is one of them.

    OK so this is exactly what Im talking about here .. this experiment is going very well.
    How many new members would jump right in on thatkinda topic and make that kinda post? hmmm?

    he's just starting out on the SEO road of enlightenment? .. whats the math stats on how many times this type of scenario wouldve happened before?! LOL

    To be an SEO you have to know the good and the bad. none of the math of how things work can be shunned.
    Because if you do ..you'll lack the full perception on how it works. You cant ignore gears in a motor because you dont like them. It doesnt mean you have to do 'unethical' or cheating. But to point out the fact thatthose things exist could hopefully make websites better ..do you get it?
    If Digg sees that it can be easily exploited.. they might make it less exploitable..and guess who that helps out?!
    All the ethical non-cheating SEOs.

    Theres a point to everything.. you just gotta look at it from more perspectives than the uni-brow one.
     
    ezprint2008, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  14. ericajoieake

    ericajoieake Guest

    Messages:
    556
    Likes Received:
    6
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14
    that's obviously cheating, you can hire staffs just to promote your site but not that much. There is a company in america that hires a dozen of seo staff just to promote a single site!
     
    ericajoieake, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  15. ezprint2008

    ezprint2008 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    611
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #15
    ericajoieake!

    Thats great ~ and isnt that basically doing what I was sorta describing? maybe not exactly, but its the same math idea.

    Which brings up another good point I think is worth a mention for SEO !
    Which is: Erica.. when you put that picture as your forum picture.. was there any 'SEO' related thought to it?
    Not that there's anything wrong with it.

    But again, the fine line of SEO ethics.. whats considered cheating..and whats not? :)
    Nice pic, Im not against it.. just commenting on the use of strategy. ..so no harm no foul in my opinion

    Perhaps I worded it wrong then in the opening post - I couldve called it a staff of 500 to 1,000 ..as opposed to a team. :)
     
    ezprint2008, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  16. Vitiare

    Vitiare Peon

    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #16
    This implies that Digg is fair to begin with. We all know its rigged anyway.
     
    Vitiare, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  17. nfd2005

    nfd2005 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    295
    Likes Received:
    20
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    130
    #17
    I actually got banned from Digg by engaging in a similar technique...
     
    nfd2005, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  18. Slincon

    Slincon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,320
    Likes Received:
    44
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    180
    #18
    it's considered a bad practice or even spamming. But technically, and this doesn't make it right, the whole friends feature on Digg stimulates this very concept - getting a group of linked diggers who use a tit-for-tat system (ideally) to digg and promote their stuff. I digg you, you digg me - the top diggers engage in this sort of activity quite openly promoting each other's work - at that end it's quite ok to do so. Of course morally wrong.

    The main difference is that most people submitting their stuff to digg that would be a part of this team would be submitting spamming mfa sites, affiliate links and just other nonsense. It would get detected quickly and all the accounts would be flagged - and even if Digg didn't notice these weird spamish blogs hitting the frontpage - the users would and they would start burying everything by you.
     
    Slincon, Feb 1, 2008 IP
  19. gtull1

    gtull1 Guest

    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    10
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #19
    I found this thread interesting.

    I know very little about Digg, but my hunch is that it was created by a team to implement this very thing. I would also bet that the big benefactors of Digg are those that use similar tactics.

    Thanks for the entertainment!!
     
    gtull1, Feb 2, 2008 IP
  20. dewpal

    dewpal Member

    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    #20
    First of all - its cheating.
    Second - abusing.
    Third - its unethical.
     
    dewpal, Feb 2, 2008 IP