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Perfomance car website, 30,000 visitors per month

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  1. #1
    www brisbaneperformance dot com

    Traffic >30,000 every month, very steady.
    stats

    As you can see from the above, the stats have been running since July 2002!Easily does of 30,000 uniques per month.

    Around 100mb, just PHP so no database needed.

    If you worry about PR, its 3 but the internal links were split between www & nonwww so i sorted that with the htaccess file so it will be at least a 4 imo.

    A very well aged domain.
    Top 10 in google for "performance cars" and "modified cars" this is with no real backlinks, so a little seo could make a big difference here. There has been no active marketing of the domain at all, as yet.

    You could also sell you own advertising space to modified/performance car part makers, plenty of room to monetise this.

    It needs a re-design, forum, car voting IMHO to add more interaction and bring back the users.

    I have not had time to look at it this site and just recently bought it.

    It did $80 in the first 10 days using adsense, you could therefore pen in around $240 per month and as you can see from the very steady traffic that would be no problem, better integration needed in parts as well, adding in casale, performance parts banners etc you could grow this and its userbase and soon be earning $1k a month.

    I need $5k in my paypal for a deal at the beginning of next week for another deal so if I get an offer around that mark I would sell it.

    Minimum offer $4000 if anyone is interested but would have to be a quick sale through paypal. No offer below $4k please, this domains age and stats over a long period are taken into account in my valuation, I am not looking for valuations ;)
     
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    joeychgo Notable Member

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    #2
    You may be asking for too much.

    You have only 317 pages indexed in google as I see it - a PR 3 domain with 9 incoming links - a forum with only 700 posts and your adsense is new, which means there is no income history. From what I see the majority of your site is pics and videos, even the tech articles are not yours but just links to articles on howstuffworks.com.

    Then you want top dollar for it.

    Most sites sell for about 10 months revenue. Even taking your $240 a month figure, thats half ($2400) of what your asking.

    Honestly, your site isnt worth $5k in my opinion. IM not trying to be argumentative, I just think your being a little unrealistic and you may want to reconsider.
     
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    sji2671 Self Made Mind

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    #3
    I am not looking for a valuation or approval of my price, as stated, if you do not have the skill to monetise such a site then it is certainly not worth the price, that is your opinion. I know I can get at least $500 per month within a couple of months and if I spent a bit of time on it then I know I would get $1k per month.

    If you dont think you can, sorry, it would certainly be overpriced for you.

    1/ If this site suddenly had 30k visitors over 1-2 months, maybe I would go with 10 months but it has a history nearing 4 years, if you dont see that as added value, well, sorry.

    2/ If this site was seo'd and monetised to the nuts, aye 10-12 months income, but it hasn't been touched, if you dont see the value in that, well sorry but it has huge value as I do not think it would be difficult to double the traffic.

    It has been neglected for months, ZERO work on it, if you cannot realise or visualise any potential then walk away because its not your bag, but don't try and tell me the value of such a site when I know full well its potential and current value to me. I dont mind not selling it either, I can turn this site into a $1k a month earner but I have other irons in the fire that I am more devoted to.

    If you are judging this site against a 4 month old site that did $240 per month for maybe 2 months then your not on the same train of though as I, this site has a history of traffic that really I do not see all too often, that is its value because it is not yet realised.

    I have commented on its PR with the www/nonww prob, not that it really affects income or future potential, I am selling a site with great rankings which have not even been worked on and can easily be improved, a site with little earnings which have not yet been monetised.

    One of my sites brings in around $200k per year and do you think I would sell it for $100-$200k? I wouldn't sell it for under $500k and it is optimised, It does not bother me if you think its price is high, I work to a strict valuation model, sometimes when all you see are template sites with no history you can easily get used to a x income times x months = value. This is not one of those sites. IMO.
     
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    Wordsmith Peon

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    #4
    So based on 10 days of adsense earning $8 day you value this site at $5000 because it has potential -I thought I had a good insite into this site sale game but this one does not stack up to me. I would be interested based on the actual facts and figures not what you promise they could be.

    There are so many seller starting their pitch with I base the price on the sites potential. Sorry but this is a no go for me unless your pricing is realistic.

    Thanks
    JohnT
     
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    #5
    Thats my point - Read what you just wrote... If this... If that... Neglected for months... If it was SEOd... Yeah - IF you did all that work it might be worth more - but you want someone to pay you for a site to then have to do all the work you didnt do so they can properly monitize the site and then maybe realize a decent return on the investment.

    BTW - I could monetize it - but I dont think its worth $5000 as is. -- that was my only point. I was simply offering my opinion, something that happens on forums believe it or not. I was really only trying to be helpful. As wordsmith said, I think your price is unrealistic, and this is from someone who has bought and sold several forum based websites.
     
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    #6
    Jeez, what is your problem, do I need to fuckin quote myself!!!!!!!!!

    1/ You doubt the income from adsense can be projected?

    Look at the stats, if it did that for 10 days and the traffic is good for the last 4 years why would there be any problem projecting it forward? This site is not 10 days old? I did not promise anything? I only said what I know I can do with the site.

    Really, if this is the level of replies please do not bother!
    Honestly if you dont think a site that's 4 years old with stats history is worth it, move on! I really feel for the poor fuckers that post sites for sale on here and try and make a living.

    I aint looking for feedback, quite happy if it doesnt sell, even happier if you do not see the value in my price and trot on without your ill-informed comments.

    I said I did not want your valuations, language barrier?
     
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    joeychgo Notable Member

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    #7
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    #8
    Really so $4 would be overpriced for you?, gee, remind me never to cold call on you :D :mad: :mad: :mad:


    That post was neither constructive, correct or relevant and you should really think before you type, its not worth $5? Really. Thanks for bashing my thread you really went up in my estimation.

    As regards adsense income, you really want to fuckin question my honestly you ****, I gave 10 days income from my stats after I removed the border, dont you even fuckin dare question my fuckin honesty!!


    For fucks sake, I bought it for $1200, it was a steal.
    Why did I buy it for $1200, because I negotiated it down from $2400 which was still a fair price! And may I add, a superb bit of work on my part, no congratulations, ahh sorry thats right at $1200 I guess I overpaid judging by your valuation of <$5

    Edit: I apologise for the swearing, thanks for the red!, I was just upset at the bashing of a legitimate thread.
     
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    #9
    $5000 -- use your head. It was a typo.


    SO you want a $3800 profit in 2 weeks. LOL - Your my hero!

    Come on man - I dont fault you for trying to make a few bucks - but you didnt reveal the history is that the site has been making $120 a month in adsense, half of what you claim. The previous owner did, and you bought it for 10 months revenue. Just what I said.

    :D

    Oh - and thanks for the neg rep SJi -- Sorry that it it bothers you that I have an opinion you dont like......
     
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    #10
    pooof.jpg

    So if you bought a lamborghini for a lada price you'd sell it for a lada price?

    Edit: removed CTR from the image.

    I asked for no valuations and signed the rep :D so had reason, yes you red rep'd me and yes as you stated I am sure it hurted me more but I fail to see why you gave me red rep when your the gatecrasher here?
     
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    #11
    You bought a ford escort and want a cadillac price..... IMO -- and considering you havent revealed everything you know about the site, and made it sound like the only adsense history was from 10 days -- that makes me think your dishonest.

    And lets also keep in mind that there was another forum that was part of this site that the guy you bought it from kept. Much of the traffic your getting could be resulting from people cming yto your site just to get to the other.
     
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    #12
    Where did I ask for you opinion?
     
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    #13
    You dont have to ask - I think you havent been completely honest here. Im entitled to express that.
     
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    #14
    I haven't been honest :confused: , given open stats link, given earnings since I took over the site and removed the adsense border which increased CTR :rolleyes:

    You trashed my thread, you then state that a 4 year old site that gets consitently over 30k visitors is not worth $5. :confused: :confused:

    Trolling threads really pisses me off, I have been offered $3000 by PM.
    Which I have refused, as stated everyone has their own valuation and I was not looking for yours, you have seriously gone on a stupid crusade when you were not invited, specifically not asked for, at best I would have prefered a friendly PM from you if you thought I was nuts, not a bash of my thread.
     
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    #15
    If you can get $3k -- grab it. $1800 profit in 10 days is great.

    You didnt reveal the adsense history, which is $120 a month -

    Nobody is trolling - I was interested in the site til I saw it - and the price.

    Where do those visitors come from? What are they there for? You have very little content -- just a few baclinks - Lets remember this was used as a homepage for another forum that you DONT own -- maybe people bookmarked this page as the homepage and jsut go straight to the other forum. How many of those visitors leave from the homepage too? How many visit any of your other pages? --- Oh - thats right - most of the pages with real content arent yours either... I forgot.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    So is there any content I'm missing (I see links to other videos, links to other articles, links to other forums and some pictures)?

    If you consider selling for less, I may be interested - Thanks.
     
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    #17
    Really now I have to repeat myself to someone who is only intent is to bash. I revealed MY adsense history. Clear as day, ready to give proof to interested parties.

    I refused the $3k based on MY valuations, not yours which was not asked for.

    Mainly the modified cars

    I am not interested in bids under $4k, thanks.
     
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    :yawn:

    Nobody is intent on bashing -

    So basically not much content.
     
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    #19
    Apart from the 100mb as stated in the first post, which consists of user submitted images of performance and modified cars which ranks the site in the top 10 of google for both superb key phrases.
    ...................................................................................., my will to live is fading, joey I get the strange feeling your not gonna buy this so kindly ...............
     
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    #20
    No. Even though I am always in the market for car sites, I dont think yours is a good value.
     
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