[WTS] Something which isn't mine!

Following on from my suggestion about banning crap "I got a $X click with AdSense" threads I have another idea to clean this place up.

Quite simply people should not be allowed to sell something which isn't theirs. I'm thinking specifically about links, but I'm sure it applies equally to things like collections of freely obtainable fonts and WP themes. It is the height of rudeness, and laziness, to pass someone else's work off as your own or sponge off someone else's efforts.

So lets see an end to threads like:
- $50 for a permanent .gov link (not on their site, of course).
- $20 for 100 WordPress themes (collected from free sources).
- $10 for a list of 1000 nofollow blogs (cut and paste from the thousands of similar lists already on the net).
- $20 for a permanent PR7 link (but closer investigation reveals you are buying the URL of a blog on which to comment).

Comments please...

 

I totally agree with you and I think that should include scripts as well, but who is going to research all of that to see if what people are selling is actually theirs? Don't see it happening because it seems like the mods are stretched very thin as it is and I think that would take a lot of work. It would be great, but I'm doubting it will happen.....

 

So basically you don't want anyone to broker anything? Brokering products/services is completely legitimate...I don't see why we would try and stop it.

 

Well, if it could just be limited to the examples I gave:
- No selling of information about the location of .gov/.edu/nofollow backlinks when the person starting the thread has no connection whatsoever with the sites in question.
- No selling of things which are otherwise available for free.

 

Maybe until they make it a rule, we, as members, can make a difference.

Rating the threads as bad, and giving reds can really go a long way, if we, as a community, make it happen.

 

Qryztufre that would definitely be a good start but we really need the support of the powers that be to give it some weight. I'm gobsmacked that anyone could think it acceptable to whore out links on someone else's site without their knowledge.

 

IMHO, these types of threads will disappear when people lose interest. As long as people are still buying these 'free' lists instead of doing a little work then people will continue to sell them. It's still an open marketplace so people are free to sell as they please.

The only solution I have ever seen is make the marketplace paid. Not to make a profit for DP necessarily but to keep the spammers/scammers and crap deals out. DPAuctions.com???

 

Bear with me as I play devils advocate.

So if I were to compile a list (aka report) of 1,000 places where a person could get free back links you don't think I should be able to sell it? Personally I wouldn't see the value in such a report but can understand why some people might.

You mean things like water

In this case to I can think of a lot of things people could say they can get for free that would be perfectly legitimate items/services to sell.

I do think some of the previous comments are right on - if people lose interest and essentially ignore things they are not interested in the marketplace will sort itself out.

Interesting discussion though, comments and opinions appreciated.

 

Okay, I'm willing to backtrack a bit on the "no selling of items otherwise available for free" bit.
It's the pimping out of other people's sites that sticks in my throat the most. I could do it myself - I know good nofollow blogs - but I have ethical reasons for not doing so. Would it be right that I stole PR from and spammed someone else's site merely to make a few dollars myself? I think not.

 

CB your suggestions are welcomed, but in most of the cases people are selling their efforts to collect those item/information. And if people are interested in buying that stuff, I don't think there is any problem.
I am not asking to allow warez or something, but a genuine piece of information should be ok

 

If some members are going to sell backlink "lists" for sites they do not own, the thread should be clear, and those threads should remain out of the Link Sales forum. Most of these types of threads are vague and misleading, and give members a false impression.

Report those threads and ask to have them moved somewhere else where it doesn't deceive potential buyers looking for "real" links from legitimate link sellers.

 

Yes starting thread in right section is must. Selling info to high page links should not go in link sales section.
I have confirmed that from a Mod.

 

Could create a new sub-board or something for selling these types of things.

 

I normally agree with you. However, I have to go with GuyFromChicago on this one. It is basically a brokering service and even though I do not agree it is ethical, it is legitimate services. It is like any other part of any economy, supply and demand. If people keep wanting to pay for the crap, people will keep coming to DP to sell it.

The changes that were made in recent times were needed because the changes made were against practices which were against the TOS of all the companies involved. I do not think DP should restrict free trade just for the mere fact that some disagree with the practices.

 

Interesting.....

I guess this would mean no more of the following as well,

1. Avatar sales ( as this is Shawns forum )
2. Signature Links ( as this is Shawns forum )
3. Recent blog Links ( as this is Shawns forum )

Because these things really aren't "ours" to sell are they?

OH ! AND before anyone says "Well its my account"

Just think, If a MOD wants to end your account they can ( Ban ) , so its not really our account.......

And yes, off course I have sold my spots , and I am NOT pointing you out personally, Just making a valid point...

 

GFC uses some good comparisons...water...that's a good one. If this were illegal, then the whole economy world-wide would collapse because this is how the whole system works. It's all about margins and pretty much everything is up for sale unless it is something that the system itself abhors....like porn etc..

I can understand CB's viewpoint. He wants a cleaner society. But, when you think of it. It needs to start from the top down.

Col

 

i agree,these stuff are totally Crap in this forum,it should not be allowed

its different,shawn allows avatar/link sales,so we can do this because we have his permission,but in font packpages,themes packpages and etc they dont have any permission to sell this..

 

Oh yea, Show me where Shawn says its ok to whore out his forum for profit,.........

Please, I really can't wait to see this

Yes , really, ....show me where it says "sig links , avatars , and recent blog links" are ALLOWED to be sold......

I bet you can't !

 

HAHA...I can't seem to find that section in the FAQs either...