That is not true, heres just one case of a child being abused by social services, if it were not for the mother protecting her child, this child would of been adopted: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=495304&in_page_id=1770
Well, in the USA, at least where I am, they will pay a foster parent a small amount of money that helps take care of the kids. The kids stay in the foster system until the parent gets their act straight and gets their kids back OR the parents lose their rights. Most of the kids in the system are their because of drugs. Once the state has custody they will adopt the child out. Through the foster system they don't charge for these adoptions so they don't make money their. It is similar to the welfare system, it is all tax dollars.
I got 3 main ideas here. Please correct me if I am wrong. GRIM believes that there is a good intention behind the idea but it is a mistake. He believes that the rich think they know better. Toopac believes that there it is partly for greed and partly good intention. And debunked explained a process which seems so fair to me. Now I am confused ... .
Over here it is quite different, most children who past through the care system ie foster care or subsequently into adoption have never been harmed or anything, it is mostly because the parent(s) have a slight learning disability or some other scant reason. There's 5 main reasons children are taken they are as follows: Money - Adoption targets or incentives to adopt children out. Good intentions, but misplaced. Real reasons. Overactive social workers. Total failure of the system. I'd say this case is 2.
Well, even if I am insincere it doesn't change the facts, or does it? Which opinion do you have by the way? Is it included in those 3 options I have broght? Let me paste them again: Please correct me if I am wrong. GRIM believes that there is a good intention behind the idea but it is a mistake. He believes that the rich think they know better. Toopac believes that there it is partly for greed and partly good intention. And debunked explained a process which seems so fair to me. Now which one do you belive? .
Yes the US system has flaws as well. There are of course reasons when a child should be taken. Parents caught smoking pot though is hardly a reason to take children away, nor is multiple other reasons. Actual abuse is a different story.
Most cases I am aware of are drug related and even though pot makes people stupid, that isn't the whole reason, usually pot isn't the only drug, meth is common here and people are just fried. They don't care about their children while they are high or trying to get high, children are just in their way. You will find the kids locked up in a bedroom for days, starved, addicted, etc... Quite often babies are taken away at birth because of a drug user giving birth, do you know what these poor babies go through? Babies are given pain killers to help them cope for a few months! Drugs are sooooooo destructive and yet so often it starts with pot. *please don't go off on me about alcohol, just because I didn't specify it.
similar in the U.S. except the money part. Overactive social workers - I would say the ones who worship the State as god, who believe the 'state' can do no wrong and they are the arm of the state that does no wrong. These social workers are impossible. To top it off a majority of them never had kids, yet they want to tell people how to raise children. .... got to get off my soap box...
Pot is not destructive in most all cases such as you listed above, alcohol not only 'and yes you stated not to' is worse than most drugs, it also is the cause to the harder drugs NOT pot. Most true pot smokers do not use hard drugs, hard drugs come from drinking 9 times out of 10 in the real world
Everyone drug user I ever talked to about it (I guess ex drug users) all, and yes everyone one of them says that pot let to the other drugs. Pot just got their guard down so they would think that this isn't bad for you blah, blah, blah, and then when the high wasn't good enough or fast enough, then they went to the next thing offered. Pot is the most lied about drug I know of. Most common lies I have seen are it isn't harmful, it is not addictive, it is good for you, great for your pain, etc..... Grim, I would prefer you didn't continue this argument, you see, right now I am furious about drugs, my oldest son has fallen for the lies and is now out of our house. Someone told him those lies and he believed them and things just snowballed from their. Boy his 'friends' are so nice to him.... NOT. I wouldn't mind beating his friends, but this won't affect you any until you have a child that does the same. Drugs screw up people. pot, alcohol, cocaine, whatever, all destructive to the mind, body and family.
I know alot of drug users, pot smokers, drinkers, crack smokers, heroine. Most all cocaine, crack, hard drugs come from drinking not smoking pot. On the same token the few that do go to other drugs from pot is because of the 'lies' told about the government. People try pot, the substance they have been told is so dangerous and find it to not be. Making them think that other drugs are not as harmful as well. Some people are also simply the frame of mind that they will do anything and everything, nothing will stop these people. If pot was not there, if crack was not there, etc they would use spray paint. I knew a few when I was younger who tried other substances after smoking pot, the reason they told me was 'pot is not as bad as they told us, what's to say the 'insert hard drug' will be as well' Most true pot heads do not like hard drugs, hard drugs more commonly are used by alcoholics. Tobacco and alcohol are also used most of the time before any illegal drug, including 'pot' It is the most lied about I'll give you that, on the governments end NOT the other way around. It can be harmful if smoked, such as anything smoked can be. It also can be eaten, vaporized, etc getting rid of the dangers of smoking. It trully is not addictive, not like a tobacco, alcohol, hard drug, etc. It is actually good for pain, there have been many studies about it. My mother was stricken with disabilitating migraines, she tried everything. They ended up killing her as she got one while driving, it took her off the road and into a semi carrying construction equipment. I myself got these migraines, I tried everything. Narcotics from the doctor which I did not like. I finally read a study from a professor from HARVARD on how pot can help migraines. While I was younger I smoked it and guess what, my migraines vanished. I no longer get them, I had them so bad I could not sleep, function on any level, I cried like a little school girl. I had to be so doped up to even sleep with NARCOTICS prescribed by doctors it was not even funny. Lies of drugs go both ways, if you are seriously wanting to protect children you need to understand if drugs are lied to about by someone trying to stop them from taking them, when they discover this lie it will make them think 'wow that was wrong, all the anti drug BS must be wrong as well' I used to be very active in such subjects, researching, reading, personal experience. I do know hard drugs can be very destructive as they are so addictive the person in most cases can not control themselves. I do understand this fully, to burry our heads in the sand though and try to claim pot is the same, or even remotely the same however only creates more problems than it solves. Finally much of the 'bads' with drugs are because there is no regulation on how they are made, imagine if your tylenol was brewed in your neighbors bathtub I wish you luck with your son, I have faith you have raised him well enough that he'll be just fine.
I feel I would only be understood by one who was finally free from pot. I use to work with many who were recovering at a church and they were glad to be free. To let a plant control onself sucks. To worship a plant is stupid, yet so many people do from tobacco, m.j., to alcohol, plants are in control of this world. I personally would prefer to be contolling plants. I don't think they have the IQ to be in charge of me. Yet so many willingly submit to the reign of the plant. Be a man and be in control of the plant.
That is as fallacious as saying drinking water leads to alcoholism on the basis that all alcoholics drank water before drinking alcohol. The truth is, In both cases, Only a tiny percentage of users escalate on to the later. The argument could be made, if what you are saying was true, That cannabis use leads to use of other drugs because cannabis users buy from drug dealers and at some point may be offered other harder drugs. If that is the case it isn't the use of cannabis that leads to harder drugs but the illegality of cannabis.
I am 'free of pot' Now being free I understand more of the overuse that can be caused. The people however who over use it are people who also over use video games, movies, music, candy and many other substances. Basically lazy people in the first place.