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Why wasn't GTech banned when he insulted all muslims in the PR???

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by ablaye, Dec 28, 2007.

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  1. #1
    The Politics and Religion forum specifically states that: Personal attacks include any attacks on someone's personal life, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ETHNICITY, or personal habits. at
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=512154

    GTech made a post that is deeply offensive to muslims. He made a vile insult at Islam and at the Prophet Mohammed that muslims follow.
    You can read his post at http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5797560&postcount=121

    Why didn't this asshole get banned????
     
    ablaye, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    clookid Notable Member

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    I don't exactly feel that he was insulting muslims, it completely depends upon the way that you interpret it. It seems to supply more of a rhythm that he is sharing what he believes will happen. It may not be true, but it is simply an opinion.
     
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  3. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Calling someone a pedophile isn't an insult???? What planet do you live on???
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I am not a Muslim but I feel that it is necessary to have freedom of speech, but also necessary to respect each other's religion. This is GTech undoing. I support ablaye on his call, not calling for his banning but asking the Mods to look into this and decide themselves.
     
    wisdomtool, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #5
    A personal attack is directed toward someone in particular.

    Nevertheless, it is always unfortunate when people are offended. However, in most advanced countries we don't punish people just because other people are offended by something.

    If we start to prohibit discussion of things certain people find offensive there would be little left to talk about. The answer to speech you don't agree with is not to try and keep others from speaking, but more speech.

    Let your words compete in the marketplace of ideas.



    ps: Am I the only one who finds it ironic that in a post complaining of personal attacks, the OP couldn't keep from calling someone an "asshole". You have shown your hypocrisy clearly for all to see. I personally thought it an odd way to impress people with the notion that you were offended by a personal attack. Is your point so weak that you must yourself rely on juvenile insults directed against another member?
     
    browntwn, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    Lets face it, in this day and age, Muhammad would be just that, its not an insult, its modern day truth. I mean wasnt he supposedly married to a 12 year old or something?
     
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    clookid Notable Member

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    Whoops! Got distracted... Only read half of the statement. Sorry about that.

    In that case, it is rather... Well, it isn't a personal attack... It is directed at multiple people. But I suppose it is no worse that attacking all of the people that write articles for 1-cent per word, plenty of people do it.

    Something should happen about it, but I don't really support a permanent ban... Sorry, once again.
     
    clookid, Dec 28, 2007 IP
  8. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    The comment was directed towards the Prophet whom billions held with great respect, I am not a Muslim, I still feel it is unjustified, If ablaze is a Muslim, he would feel strongly against this. Maybe he can tone down during his request to the mods, but I think it is a valid complaint, though we need to let the mods decide. Discussion do need to follow the rules laid down for that particular forum.

     
    wisdomtool, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    While I can understand that, not offending the Prophet of a religion is not a rule of this forum nor a religious dictate for many DP members. If we all take that approach then some people can claim to be insulted when President Bush is insulted or ridiculed, or when Israel or 'Zionism' are insulted - should all those people making those insulting posts be banned too?

    Personally, I find many things written on DP to be personally offensive, should I try to make sure that others are not allowed to discuss them just because it offends me?

    You can't stop all criticism of Islam, even if you find it insulting. The notion that you can is the same attitude that leaves people dead over a cartoon. Personally, I find that type of over-reaction to be far more offensive that the original action.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    The cartoons' reactions was excessive. It is more propagated by governments and religious interest groups with an axe to grind.

    But in this case I think this does apply as below

    Personal attacks include any attacks on someone's personal life, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ETHNICITY, or personal habits.

    Again I am not a mod, so let the mods decide.

     
    wisdomtool, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    I think maybe banning the religion forum is a better choice. Why do we need a forum about religion?

    No one is going to change anyone elses mind. It is just an emotional reaction. A world with morals and no religion might be a better place for sure it would be a better group of forums.
     
    Colbyt, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It is a great forum to discuss different religious views, to interact with people of different religions and to understand each other's differences and similarities. I feel it would be a pity to ban. Take water for eg, you can drown in it, but you can also sail in it. The forum is dead, we as participants need to ensure we sail on water rather than get drown in it with hatred, biases and what now.
     
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    techblog Banned

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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    More of GTech insults:

     
    ablaye, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    techblog Banned

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    So because it was not a big deal @ the time, gtech should be banned for being accurate? gtech could in a way be commended for using accurate and technically correct words.
     
    techblog, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    #17
    I must have missed those posts. :) All I see is a lot of baiting and bashing going on.

    Please don't get me wrong about religion. There are a lot of people of many faiths who are good and moral people. There are mal-contents in all religions. You can tell the good religions and the good followers by their actions and the works they do.

    I don't wear my religion "on my sleeve" and I feel no need to force anyone else into believing as I do. The supreme creator by whatever name you call him/her will sort the evil from the good. And I do suspect there will be a lot of surprised believers at that time.
     
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    sundaybrew Numerati

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    O just be quite and spend some time with your Family.

    Thats what is wrong with ALL countries......

    Everyone needs more family time :)
     
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    Aaww, you guys still feel that the mods here will react to this.
    Forget it ablaye, you cannot just go running behind insane guys everytime, just ignore them and project towards your work.

     
    Ibn Juferi, Dec 28, 2007 IP
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    It's not an accurate term. That is a modern term applied to a long-gone practice. Furthermore, most of these marriages were purely political in an attempt to ally tribes to expand the Muslim presence in Arabia.
     
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