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How can you tell if DMOZ have your site on a pending list?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Ammtek, Oct 13, 2007.

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    I've read bloggs claiming the DMOZ list was wiped and people should re-submit. But this is a submission no-no. So how do you know whether after 6 months waiting that in fact you're not even on the list! Why would it be so hard to write a script to filter multiple submissions down to one per top level domain, publish a pending list or something?
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    The list was wiped due to a crash. If you submitted in '06 then go ahead and do it again. If it was in '07 then it's likely there.

    What site & What category? We here at Digital Point can't say if it's still in line, but we can say if it's got listing potential.

    Though, you can try here: Dmoz Resources

    Some of the find folks there are editors, and they would be glad to help.
     
    Qryztufre, Oct 13, 2007 IP
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    crowbar Peon

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    Q is correct. We won't consider one additional submission as spamming the Directory, it's the multiple submissions we get irritated with. It's wastes a lot of our time, :).

    Added - What you're really doing is submitting a site suggestion for our consideration, there's no guarantee that we'll list it, or when it might get looked at.

    Added again - At this time, there is no "Pending list" or any other site status report where a site owner can check on whether the site has been rejected, why it was rejected, or if it just hasn't been looked at yet and is still waiting.

    I don't speak for staff or any other editor, but they have heard you and know that's what you would like and are requesting, but right now, it isn't available.
     
    crowbar, Oct 13, 2007 IP
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    Ammtek Peon

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    Thanks Qryztufre and crowbar,
    thats reassuring news. I only have one site that I feel is worthy of submitting (BornToWear.co.uk) It's the online presence of a conventional business.
    I'll re-submit and then try to forget all about it:)

    Thanks again.
     
    Ammtek, Oct 14, 2007 IP
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    Anonymously Notable Member

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    Before you forget about it, looking at the site, I assume you have offered it to Shopping, if so it would be worth submitting to Regional/.../Bournemouth/ Business and Economy as well, with a mention in the description that you organize local parties for your goods, that brings out that it has a regional significance and whilst you do not have a base as such I think i would list that in Bournemouth because of that offer. But its worth a go. You are entitled to have a topical and regional listing if it has regional significance or a real base and is not just internet shopping.

    As for when it will be looked at....sorry that is unpredictable, depend on an editor lookinmg at that category and shopping usually has heavy submissions.
     
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  6. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    There have been times when I was reviewing a group of site suggestions in one Regional city/locality or in a Topical category, and some of them had only been there a few days, while others ranged from weeks to years.

    All of them were listed that same day because that's the area where I was currently working. I hope that kind of gives you an idea of why some sites get listed almost immediately, and others might wait a long time.

    I edit the entire United States, so if you can imagine how many city/localities are located in the 50 states, and how many subcategories are in each of those, you might get an idea of why it takes awhile to get to each of them.

    With roughly 600,000 categories and roughly 7,000 volunteer editors with various amounts of free time available to them, predicting when a submitted site suggestion might get reviewed is almost impossible due to the shear numbers involved.

    That isn't a CYB statement, it's fact, :).
     
    crowbar, Oct 14, 2007 IP
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    Nobody can tell if your URL is on a pending list. But some people can tell how many URLs are on the list.
     
    arunsiam, Oct 16, 2007 IP
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    Some users wanting an update on their submissions have posted in the DMOZ forum, and have received replies.
     
    KnickersBoxersGlory, Oct 31, 2007 IP
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    jimnoble Well-Known Member

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    Re http://www.borntowear.co.uk/

    It's not obvious on the website whether or not it ships outside the UK so a Shopping listing would be problematical. A UK Shopping category might be better.
     
    jimnoble, Oct 31, 2007 IP
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    jimnoble Well-Known Member

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    ..not in recent years they haven't.
     
    jimnoble, Oct 31, 2007 IP
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    We've been trying to get our site listed there for 3 years and it hasn't happened. The first time we submitted was in 2004, never went up, then we did again in 05, didn't try in 06 and finally I just tried it myself a couple of weeks ago... still nothing up. I probably won't try it again if this time fails.
     
    teraeon, Nov 1, 2007 IP
  12. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Anything in 04 or 05 is now lost due to the crash. So for the last year you've not been in the waiting list.

    As for submitting a few weeks ago, they only have like 6k active editors, so there is a lot of work that needs to be done. It'll take a lot of time to get to your site (depending on your site, and it's category).

    Though, without telling anyone the site or category you submitted too, no one can even begin to give a hint as to why you are not making it in.
     
    Qryztufre, Nov 1, 2007 IP
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    I have submited my website to DMOZ, but.. nothing. tumano.com still not listed. hmmm
     
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    I think as a wise man once said.

    Submit and forget.
    Forget to submit.

    It will be listed if it is listed. No point in worrying about it. Get on with other things to improve your site's rankings.;)
     
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    paidhosting Peon

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    Like Q mentioned that site invites editors to come help out webmasters like urself, maybe u will get lucky and get a status check or a review too.

    Just a warning do not mess with ivan on the boards he will destroy u :D he owns the ring now.:p:p
     
    paidhosting, Nov 16, 2007 IP
  16. crowbar

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    Nothing prevents an editor from giving a site status report if the editor chooses to do so, and they don't break the confidentiality clause while doing it.

    I have joined paidhosting's forum to lend an occasional hand when I think it's appropriate, but, my own belief is still that site status reports will not help you in any way.

    If your site is awaiting review, you know it got there, nothing else.

    If it's been declined, what are you going to do, submit it again? It will be declined again, period.

    If the site is listed, so what, you could have seen that yourself by looking in the Directory. :D

    So, tell me what you have accomplished, other than taking up an editors editing time to find out something that will not change your status one iota.

    The real help an editor can give is to give you some advice on possible category selection, and title and description writing to help your site suggestion stand out in the crowd, that's useful information. Unfortunately, my attempts here to do that were trashed by a moron compatriot of yours, so you might like to thank him/her for that with some red rep.

    An editor can also give you a better understanding of the Directory, what editors do, and what we look for in a site, but, we can't help you build your site to our liking, that's not our function.

    Here's a couple of things I can tell you:

    We're not a listing service.
    No site has a right or a promise to be listed.
    We don't want every site, only sites that meet our needs.
    You cannot pay to get a listing.
    You cannot bribe an editor and get away with it, you will be caught.
    No one can gaurantee you a listing.
    No one can gaurantee you a time frame for a listing. (not even editors)
    Any corrupt editor will be caught and booted.
    The Directory is alive, well, and thriving.
    There will be new changes, features, and ideas implemented.
    We are accepting new editors daily, as fast as they can be reasonably processed.

    And, most of the haters you hear from are such, because they have a snowballs chance in hell of ever being included in the Directory, and they want to make sure you get the same status, so listen to them or listen to us, it's your choice, :D. It doesn't affect me one way or another.
     
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    I am comming round to the belief that telling a webmaster that they have been rejected and why would enable them to improve their site and surely that would benefit everyone! But I would believe that would only work if ODP did it for every site not just individual editors helping one or two webmasters.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    I applaud you for that!

    And a check box list added to the rejection button could send an automated response out. It would only add another moment of time, and everyone involved would be happier. Applying an auto-acceptance email to the approve button would also be a fantastic way to cut down on the "DMOZ SUX" threads that pop up around here.

    Alternatively, to save on server load from all the outbound emails, and confirmation code could be given at the time of submitting, then the reasons could be given in some type of shared editor notes. (kinda like abuse reports are done now).

    I do feel that the majority of sites submitted "ages ago" that have not been approved do not fit somehow, the trouble is that the webmaster of those sites somehow does not see it. Point the trouble out to them and the internet as a whole even becomes a better place.
     
    Qryztufre, Nov 17, 2007 IP
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    DMOZ is not but it's senior editors are.

    with exception of 1 page porn affiliate sites, DMOZ editors get upset and talk about freedom of speech when doorway pages for porn are not listed.

    Does this mean that porn affiliates, gambling, pharmacy and rape meet your needs while real estate and shopping, doesn't? :rolleyes:

    Yes, you can. It is called "SEO" work and alucrad already posted that you can.

    It is not a bribe, it is payment for "SEO" work. :rolleyes:

    Senior editors can and do as part of their "SEO" service. There is a thread in this forum that explains the price and time frame.

    Unless you are Meta, Admin or one of their usual assistants. They will not be booted, no matter how many times they are caught and one of the admin can even claim that it is because they are protected by organized crime.

    You can either stand on your feet or learn from one the editors and start crawling, it seems this is the way that some of the editors believe as the only way to achieve anything. :)
     
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    Once again, gworld, you try and derail a thread with your obsession with porn and we all know that you have porn sites, do you believe that by mentioning it every post you make you will somehow create more trafick to your own porn sites?

    This is just not true, meta editors have been both demoted and booted and a least one in adult.

    Being a meta or admin does not protect one. But you know that, you just want to cast ODP in that bad light that you have inside yourself about them.
     
    Anonymously, Nov 17, 2007 IP