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Discussion in 'Services' started by Morgan, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. timecoderror

    timecoderror Peon

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    #121
    Please forgive me if I offend with the following, but I've just read this entire post from October until now and it reads like a bad soap opera. The guy Morgan, running a posting site ... can't spell. When I clicked to his "forum" the writers posting there couldn't string a sentence together. Then Morgan began conducting his "business" right here in this forum! It was quite a read! It became amusing to ponder which of the posts, here in Morgan's store, were fake posters. "I'll sign up Morgan, when can I give you my money??" Wow. Some of these posts said Morgan's store, right here on Digital Point was the best Posting company out there. Oh, goodness. If that's true guys, rush in... it would seem to be a sellers market.
     
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  2. Guru

    Guru Peon

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    #122
    Wow great 1 post I would say eh?
     
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    #123
    nice tpic to discuss and good place !!!!
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #124
    Clearly this is not the case with forumbulge. He has stated publicly whom he does and does not work for.

    I believe that is an unreasonable characterization, given the examples I have posted.

    Then they should not be in that business.

    I believe that the current market rates are too low, and that we will begin to see market differentiation based upon service quality.

    I have purchased packages from three vendors. Only those vendors with the best authors will be asked to continue to the next round.
     
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  5. yfs1

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    #125
    Sorry to go a little off topic but any chance of the url? For some reason it intigues me.

    There is nothing to ponder...He initially gave great service but his communication issues then caught up with him hence this mess...I wasn't faking it when I reccomended him. However after getting a lot of PMs and reading the posts afterward, I never used him again.
     
    yfs1, Dec 5, 2005 IP
  6. aeiouy

    aeiouy Peon

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    #126
    Huh? I am talking about the posters that work for him. He may not post for other services, but it is unlikely he has any control over his posters and what else they do in their free time. I don't think you understand what I was saying.

    Most of these services just farm out the work to whomever will take it. Some have more rigorous screening processes than others but the reality is there is not a huge line of people willing to sit around making 100s of posts a day at 10 cents a pop. My point was that there are likely posters who work for multiple posting services and who might use the same names and submit them as work done to multiple services. Notice I have not said any specific service by name... I just know that people will often hire multiple services at the same time. (This is a very good strategy for anyone looking to pay for posters by the way.).

    Like I said though, there is not a huge pool of reliable and quality posters out there to do the work for the small amount of money being offered. Some posting services take up to 50% of the total fee and pass the remaining money to the actual posters.




    Perhaps an over-statement or hyperbole on my part. I get the impression that you feel like I am attacking you as being unrealistic. I was not targetting you at all. In fact elsewhere you specifically said you would pay more for higher quality. I am refering to the general population. The whole forum posting thing has entered a vicious downward spiral.




    That is the problem though. The business model as it stands right now is not really sustainable for any extended period of time. Posting Services are not going to be able to maintain a very high level of posting with reliable and on-time delivery at the present rates. It is simply not possible. The whole thing breaksdown because almost all of them "hire" outside posters and pay them a very small amount of money for posts. This is not enough to assure quality, reliability or anything else. For posters it always becomes something that is low down on the list of priorities of things to do. Basically Forum Post Services Owners are relegated to herding cats.

    I think the only way a real high quality service could work for those kinds of rates is if you have a very small service made up of 1 or 2 people who do all the posts themselves. This model though where they farm out the work is just not going to stand up over time.





    I agree with you 100%. I also think you will see the quality posters only working for those services who pay the most money. So it is possible that this vicious downward spiral will revert itself and head back in the other direction. I think too many people have started these services and relied simply on price as the only difference.


    Definately the right way to do it.


    By the way I have heard of at least one service that is working on pushing the bar back up. So there does seem to be some hope.
     
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  7. Guru

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    #127
    Wow you guys put alot of thought into your posting in this thread lol. Im falling asleep trying to read all of what you are saying.
     
    Guru, Dec 5, 2005 IP
  8. forumbulge

    forumbulge Guest

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    #128
    I wasn't going to contribute to this thread anymore.
    But, need I say that this is exactly how I work?

    I have 2 people working with me, both whom I know in real life and both whom live with me. So to that point, I do somewhat have an idea what they are doing in real life :)

    Only on a couple of occasions have I requested outside help, however that happens only about 1% of the time.

    We're not all herding cats :)
     
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  9. William

    William Well-Known Member

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    #129
    Morgan I am aware of your current situationen and I am sorry for you but I would appricate to get a response from you.

    Regards
     
    William, Dec 6, 2005 IP
  10. aeiouy

    aeiouy Peon

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    #130
    Fair enough... and I think I stated that is the only real method to provide the service requested at the prices offered.

    If that is the case, I think you need to make that clear. Some people think that saying they have 10s of unique posters is somehow better. It is only better if they are all quality posters. Having a couple of high quality posters who can post on a lot of subjects would be much better than a lot of average to below average posters.

    I tried to be careful not to impinge any particular posting service.. I was speaking generalities.
     
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  11. forumbulge

    forumbulge Guest

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    #131
    Yeah I know you were, thats cool.
    I've always stated we're a small team, no point misleading people.

    I hope you get a response soon William.
     
    forumbulge, Dec 7, 2005 IP
  12. steveuk1

    steveuk1 Peon

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    #132
    hi, just joining in on this debate.

    we have planned and opened up a paid forum service.

    http://www.forumboost.co.uk

    same as forumbulge, we actually no the posters in real life as we all live under the same roof.again we are a small team,

    i think certain people on here saying they can have several different ip address posters may be lying and most definately a scam. i wont mention any names.

    it just cant be very profitable to employ people to do the work. well thats here in the uk anyway.

    our site is not about making a quick buck, we are in this for the long term. and am looking to build reliable company with outstanding feedback. early days as of yet.;) .

    gong to be launching our advertising campaign very soon:)
     
    steveuk1, Dec 17, 2005 IP
  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #133
    One piece of advice:

    If you are going to enter the forum posting business, you will most certainly do better if the posts advertising your service feature proper spelling, grammar, and capitalization.

    Post #132 was an abomination.
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 17, 2005 IP
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    gemwol Peon

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    #134
    Paidposts.com is a scam, a sloppy one at that. I found him through DNF and solely based on that I decided to go for the gold package. What a mistake. If you want excuses, Morgan's your man, if you need a few lies, Morgan's your man, if you need forum posts Morgan is not your man. In 2 months I got $25 worth of posts from the $250 I paid and if you knew the struggle I had to get them. But don't worry Morgan will be here again with another excuse. I am looking forward to the next excuse, but please, please, use some creativity, you were a forum poster service afterall.
     
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  15. steveuk1

    steveuk1 Peon

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    #135
    posts look more natural with mstakes in. afterall not everyone can be compared to your superiarity (bad spelling again) . and maybe you have too much time on your hands
     
    steveuk1, Dec 18, 2005 IP
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    joch21 Well-Known Member

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    #136
    Jesus Christ - How many forum posting services does this little internet need? Seems like everybody is jumping on the bandwagon.
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #137
    Good forum users are not attracted to bad posts.
     
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    gemwol Peon

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    #138
    I concur. Good posting standards should be ones objective, occasional mistakes are acceptable. Bad spelling and grammar routinely stand out like a sore thumb.
     
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    #139
    Tuf luv frum Wil Spenser :)

    But a very valid point. If you're going to impress upon others the validity and importance of hired hands for building up a community, you won't accomplish that with shoddy language skills.
     
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  20. forumbulge

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    #140
    Agreed there.
    I wouldn't be in this business if I didn't have top notch English skills.
    :)
     
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