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Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by imnajam, Oct 24, 2007.

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    Editors don't give site status reports, but any deeplinks are added at an editors sole discretion, and for a specific reason in a particular category, and is the exception rather than the rule.

    Editors would normally only list the main url, so that may have been done, or the site may have been moved to a more appropriate category, or there may have been a temporary glitch with the url that one of our automated QC tools caught, and it may be waiting in the unreviewed for an editor to investigate and resolve. That happens quite often, and those type of sites and update requests stand out seperately for us.

    Another possibility is that the Title or Description didn't quite comply with ODP Guidelines, and it may have been temporarily delisted until those were fixed by the resident editor (if there is one). It's part of our training program.

    Those are some of the possibilities. I can't give you any specific information about your site suggestion, as that is proprietary information, and I would be breaking the confidentiality clause that I agreed to when I became an editor.

    Just wait and be patient, perhaps it will show up again. :)
     
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    That part of the directory is for English sites and you seem to have a good deal that is not in English.
     
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    imnajam Well-Known Member

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    It was under Pakistani Poetry (which is suppose to be in roman urdu script and my site description was telling it as well)

    Further, I see several sites have multiple enteries in DMOZ, does it means that I can resubmit a site to any other category, once it's approved in any category?
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Generally speaking you can only have one listing, and sometimes can pull off a regional listing. For more details on multiple listings check out THIS.


    Deep Linking for the better part is frowned upon, and unless you are an editor it rarely happens (See Skrenta's 10,000 topix listings for details).

    As for the details of your specific case, I can not say for sure.
     
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    No. Generally, a site may be listed once in a Topical category (as yours was) and once in the Regional section of the Directory (if it has a physical brick and mortar walkin location/office). I don't edit in the part of the Directory you're located in, but if you see multiple listings for any one site there, please report it to the Resource Zone so it can be investigated.

    http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/

    Anonymously is probably more familiar with that area of the Directory.

    I wish you wouldn't confuse posters that I'm trying to help, Q, by making jabs. A lot of weather sites were added enmasse also, and Topix is a matter for AOL staff to deal with. Way over the heads of most editors.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    I'm sorry :( but as long as an editor has 10k listings, his 10k listings should be mentioned.

    There would be nothing to get confused over if everyone had to play by the same rules.
     
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    imnajam Well-Known Member

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    Allright, so is it possible that my site is removed as I again applied into another category for the same domain, with different deep link this time i.e http://sms4smile.com/category/funny-sms/
    Could this be the reason of why my site being removed?

    Anonymous, do you have access to the section I am talking about?

    Qryztufre:thanks for posting in here, any suggestion for getting my site sms4smile.com into dmoz suitable categories?

    can you guys (dmoz editors) suggest me suitable categories ?

    Thanks all in advanced, everyone has been repped as well :)
     
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    Editors don't normally list each page of a site via deeplinks because there are a variety of topics that might fit in a variety of subcategories. The main url would be listed in a higher category that would cover all of the topics, and the web surfer would be expected to navigate the site to whatever interests them.
     
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    imnajam Well-Known Member

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    I am uncertain about the best category for my top level domain (http://sms4smile.com/, however I assume that http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Pakistan/Arts_and_Entertainment/ this would be the best category for my domain for the 2 reason

    1-I choose regional / Pakistan because several sms messages (content) on my site is in roman urdu script.

    2-most pre-composed text messages are for humor/spare time utilization and for fun and entertainment.

    What do you suggest/recommend in this regard?
     
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    My own experience in editing is mostly in the Regional/US section and 5 or 6 Topical categories, so this is where I have to say that I'm just not qualified to answer you, and I don't want to give you any misinformation.

    robjones, Anonymously, ODP meta editor jimnoble, and former editor compostannie all have much more knowledge and experience than I have in that area, if they choose to jump in on this.

    I wouldn't submit the site again. If it needs to be moved, the editors in that area will know where to move it, and whether to list the deeplink or just the main url. There's nothing more you can do.

    Discussing individual sites is off limits, but helping with category placement, is ok. I haven't looked at your site and don't intend to, but, I did see the category you referenced, so I know I have no knowledge of that area.
     
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    imnajam Well-Known Member

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    Thank you cowbar for your participation, let's see if the guys you referred takes interest in this thread.
    If possible, let them know about this thread.
     
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    Websites in a language other than English belong within World, not some Regional category.

    Sadly, we don't yet fully support Urdu but there is a Test category for it at http://www.dmoz.org/Test/World/Urdu/ . I think you'll be able to see that.
     
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    That's the difference between a meta editor, and a minor editor like myself. They have much more knowledge and experience than I do, and I see no reason not to be honest about it.
     
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    Unless it is a porn site where every page that is just a affiliate doorway page gets listed and a porn site with no actual content with exception of couple of old pictures can get hundreds of listings. :)

    According to DMOZ internal forum, the reason is that if they force the owners of these sites to buy different domain names for every affiliate program, it will be too expensive for them and therefore DMOZ should list hundreds pages of the same domain, so it will be profitable for the owner. :rolleyes:
     
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    G - I seldom read the Adult/ forum, but I'm thinking you're sorta making that part up. Call it a hunch. ;)

    It is true that there's way the hell too much deeplinking in Adult/ though. I'd scrap the whole thing if it were up to me, but sadly my bid for Magnificent Ruler of the Universe hasn't worked out yet (stupid earthlings!). Still, I'm always up for a little fun... how 'bout you go ahead and start a thread in General forum about trimming the deeplinks... I'll chime in to support you. :D
     
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    No, I don't make it up. I think I even posted that part of internal forum here in DP when I used a disposable editor account to start a discussion with admins since they were insisting that they want to talk. Obviously that account login was disabled, so their claim about desire to stop corruption was shown once again to be nothing but BS.

    How do you know I don't discuss it in internal forum? Some times I even discuss it with myself by playing the devils advocate. :D
    There are already couple of threads that you can join, so I think I will pass on starting a new thread. ;)
     
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    Have an idea as to your ID. If I'm right you havent posted in the Adult forum in the last week.
     
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    That sounds like a good definition of Schizophrenia or something else when looking at adult sites:D

    I think we should dump all adult and chuck out adult only editors, let them have their own site and they can then play with themselves to their hearts content. Stopping deeplinks is but the tip of the iceberg. So many editors don't want to be associated with the 'hidden' section of the directory and I think the day is not too far distant when it happens.
     
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    What do you want me to say? Amen. :D

    Unfortunately I have heard it so many times for so long that I have a hard time to believe it.
    The problem is that some of the "senior" editors who are not even officially in adult, are the driving force and protector of that section, other wise it was gone long time ago.
     
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