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My Thoughts on the visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by tesla, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    bogart, Sep 26, 2007 IP
  2. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    Yay! i agree with you for once:D
     
    Toopac, Sep 27, 2007 IP
  3. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Didn't say that all Arabs cannot be trusted. Palestinians, for example, cannot be trusted. Syrians cannot be trusted. Iran cannot be trusted.
    I base my opinion after all the wars, complications, peace talks, negotiations and so on. And i do not call for a genocide.
    I call to use force against Hamas, eliminate this organization from the face of the earth. Use force against Hizbullah and do the same. Use force against Syria and make sure they don't pose a threat to Israel any longer. Use force against Iran and make sure they don't pose a threat to the world any longer.
    People are sick of your bud's rockets and blowing up things. Enough of this shit already. Make the world a better place.

    Enough talking. More Acting.


    This reminded me of a cartoon i made some time ago (remember this, AGS?):
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    Here Ahmadenijad thanks you for your support:
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    Keep on admiring him, AGS. :D
     
    DevilHellz, Sep 27, 2007 IP
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  4. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    I read the link you posted, and it is not objective by any means. It only has a one dimensional view of the role of women in Islam. When I was in college, I read a book in my world history class called "Nine Parts of Desire: The Hidden World of Islamic Women:http://www.amazon.com/Nine-Parts-De...9093762?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191400394&sr=8-1

    You may want to read that book. The author of the book makes a clear distinction between misogyny and the actual teachings of the Koran.

    I've read and own the book, and if you read it, you will find that many Muslim women appreciate their lifestyles, and are proud of Islamic culture. Contrary to what the government would have you believe, not all Muslim women are slaves who are forced to follow laws that are oppressive. Some of them actually enjoy their culture!

    Obviously, the very idea of a man marrying a nine year old girl here in the U.S is illegal, and any who tried it would be subjected to scrutiny and punishment. However, as I've said before, you have to respect the laws of Iran an any other country.

    What do you think the Iranians think of our porn, violent movies, and the way our women dress? They are just as shocked by that as you are by the age at which they marry women.

    And you know what? The concept of marrying a young girl is not as uncommon as you make it sound. If you actually read history, you would know that even in European countries hundreds of years ago, it wasn't uncommon for people to marry at 12 or 13, because life expectancy was low.

    I would like you to link to an actual statute in Iranian law which allows men to marry 9 year old girls. Or better yet, show me a passage out of the Koran which shows it. Most religions have some form of fundamentalism, where adherents take their beliefs to the extreme. Everyone wants to act like Islam is the only religion that has this, when there are many others.

    The problem with people like you is that you believe rhetoric rather than going out and getting the facts for yourself. You don't take an objective view of things. Yes, I've seen the infamous video of the woman being taken out and shot in the head by an AK-47 in a field. Do I think that is right? No, it is horrible, and I would not want to visit a country that has a regime which does this to their women. However, you need to see BOTH SIDES of a story rather than seeing one, because there is always too sides.

    I know the Taliban beats and tortures women for reading, or trying to become educated, but atrocities like this happen all over the world. Why isn't the U.S. showing all the stuff that goes on in other countries? Because those countries don't have any oil, and the U.S. government has no reason to get the people behind invading them. Its all propaganda. Do you know what propaganda is?

    However, I don't feel the U.S. has the right to invade a sovereign nation. You need to start getting the real facts about stuff before you form an opinion about stuff, because the world isn't black and white. The U.S. government uses propaganda of the harsh treatment of Muslim women to get the Americans angry against the Middle East, but in truth, the U.S. government could care less about the women of the Middle East. They care about taking over the country, making it part of the NWO, and stealing the oil. Greenspan and Kissinger have recently made this clear.
     
    tesla, Oct 3, 2007 IP
  5. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Tesla, I totally agree with what you posted above. They always take extreme cases of abuse to portray all muslims.
    There are women in the Western World that are being abused, raped, killed or sold as sex slaves.
    People often forget that there are many muslim countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, some former soviet republics that are mainly muslim, some muslim african countries where women have all the freedom in the world and are muslim at the same time.
     
    ablaye, Oct 3, 2007 IP
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    #86
    Ahmadi Nejad's speech at Columbia University did nothing but good for him and his regime....

    Columbia University spoke to him so out of respect and rudely that made him look like a normal redneck, and gave Ahmadi Nejad an innocent image (what he was exactly looking for to get out of this trip)...
     
    gabbs22, Oct 4, 2007 IP