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Do Not Work With Kashem!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jmousseau, Sep 25, 2007.

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  1. #1
    He hired me to write 24 articles today, had me work for 4 to 5 hours and then contacted me and told me to stop working!

    This is unprofessional and ridiculous.
    I will be selling the articles to a competitor's website to make a point to the client about this behavior.

    WRITERS BEWARE!!
     
    jmousseau, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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  2. kashem

    kashem Banned

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    #2
    I have hired your to get original articles writen by you . What you declared in this thread http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=460788.

    But Once I have said to start the project I have found you are looking for article rewriter here
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=490268

    I am afraid you will provide me rewirten article .Hence I dont need the article that are rewritten. I have asked you to send me one original article you writen for me you could not supply me.

    No one will pay 7.50 usd for 300 rewritten article.

    I will buy article ofcourse and pay you if you can prove article is orginal
     
    kashem, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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  3. jmousseau

    jmousseau Banned

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    I told you that I was hiring another write rfor ANOTHER project that I had so that I could concentrate on your DATA RECOVERY ARTICLES.

    I have spent all afternoon researching the topic and beginning several of your articles, none are complete. The research process is long....and some articles have 100 words, but none complete.

    I will be completing these articles and selling them to another buyer.

    In the future, DO NOT ASSUME anything about the way a writer does her business.
     
    jmousseau, Sep 25, 2007 IP
  4. kashem

    kashem Banned

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    #4
    Hi
    It not wise to abuse DP resouces. Rather than answering all posts by the writer I have posted here what i have discussed with the writer. I m not going to reply feeling that it is not good practice . I will post my comment if it is demanded by others
    As a client I must know what I m going to pay for.


    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    hello
    Jessica says:
    hello
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    it seems u provide rewriten article, i m sorry i dont need article
    Jessica says:
    was just about to sign off 
    Jessica says:
    i just PMed you
    Jessica says:
    that's not for you
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    my client will never pay me
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    any way thanks
    Jessica says:
    what?
    Jessica says:
    i already started your articles
    Jessica says:
    they are not rewritten 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    sorry
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    my client will not pay
    Jessica says:
    what are you talking about rewritten? 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    [url]http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=490268[/url]
    Jessica says:
    THAT'S NOT YOURS
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    how can i be sure
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    tell me
    Jessica says:
    That's anotehr project i'm hriing out
    Jessica says:
    I've been working on your articles this afternoon
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    send one example
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    sorry for that
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i am worried
    Jessica says:
    Not if you're going to take my work without paying 
    Jessica says:
    you hired me for all 24 articles --and they will be turned into you -- after they are completed --- i've been working since you gave me the GO-AHEAD 
    Jessica says:
    i was hiring someone else for another project i got - so that i could do your work
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    no thatnns
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i dont need articles
    Jessica says:
    you already hired me 
    Jessica says:
    so you're obligated to pay 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    if u cant sent any 
    Jessica says:
    i've been working 4 horus on them 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    send 4 hours stuff
    Jessica says:
    nope -- you hired me for 24 articles and will be paying the $180 for the work
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i will check if they are okay
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    sorry
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    send 4 hours job
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    how many articles u have written
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    so far
    Jessica says:
    not 1 is done --- i've started all of them --- i go back and forth as i research, b/c i find different parts of the research as i'm going along --- 
    Jessica says:
    i work on all of them together
    Jessica says:
    and im' adding keywords
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    sorry i am getting u now
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    no need of your work
    Jessica says:
    all 24 are started
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i m not fool
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    sorry
    Jessica says:
    what? 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    leave it
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i dont need ur article
    Jessica says:
    i'll send them when they are done 
    Jessica says:
    you already hired me
    Jessica says:
    and you're paying for the work
    Jessica says:
    you're obligated by contract
    Jessica says:
    you told me to write them
    Jessica says:
    and you will pay 
    Jessica says:
    end of story
    Jessica says:
    i'll have them to you tomorrow
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    yes as i though they are good
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i dont want u to have someone written for me
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i know DP and other sources
    Jessica says:
    I'M WRITING THEM 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    where get articles and 
    Jessica says:
    i have been for 4 hours
    Jessica says:
    and researching
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    and how can some one wrtite
    Jessica says:
    i know everything about listing and flipping houses now haha
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    them
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    okay leave it 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i dont need your article
    Jessica says:
    it's too late
    Jessica says:
    i've been working for 4 hours on them
    Jessica says:
    and started all of them
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    prove it
    Jessica says:
    so they will be completed 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    u worked
    Jessica says:
    and you will be paying 
    Jessica says:
    where would i get all those article names from? 
    Jessica says:
    if i didn't start? 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    its too easy
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    any way
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i dont need it 
    Jessica says:
    it's too late
    Jessica says:
    do you not get it? 
    Jessica says:
    you hired me
    Jessica says:
    someone started your project
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    i m goint to dp 
    Jessica says:
    you can't cancel after they've been working 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    and htere it will be setteled
    Jessica says:
    you're contracted
    Jessica says:
    you hired me for 24 articles
    Jessica says:
    and you will pay
    Jessica says:
    end of story
    Jessica says:
    my lawyer is informed
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    okay ask your lawer to file case agisnt me
    Jessica says:
    i will be posting about your hiring me on DP and cancelling and no writer will work for you 
    Jessica says:
    and i will be filing a suit 
    Jessica says:
    you hired me and wasted 4 horus of my time
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    okay do 
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    that
    Jessica says:
    ok 
    Jessica says:
    sounds great
    Jessica says:
    writing post now
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    ok
    Jessica says:
    don't waste write'rs time
    Jessica says:
    this is my full time job
    Jessica says:
    i went back and forth with you in correspondence 
    Jessica says:
    and then you had me work for 4 horus for nothing
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    well if u can provide me 4 hours job right now
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    [B]i can pay you [/B]
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    [B]for that hours[/B]
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    [B]my worry is all about rewriteen articles[/B]
    Jessica says:
    I will be selling these articles to another website 
    Jessica says:
    i rather give it to a client that deserves it
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    okay do what u wanted to do
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    oepn a thread in DP
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    [B]and anything fair[/B]
    Jessica says:
    and they will be competition to you then
    [email]makctg@yahoo.com[/email] says:
    [B]all decide i will do[/B]
    Jessica says:
    ok posted
    Jessica says:
    goodbye
    Code (markup):
     
    kashem, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    #5
    I don't know what you think you're proving by posting the conversation. It says everything I've said. I spent 4/5 hours on research, I've been piecing together articles and none are complete.

    I was hiring someone else for another project I got --so I could concentrate on only your work.

    Not sure what you're trying to prove.
     
    jmousseau, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    Yeah, by posting the conversation, I actually am on jmousseau's side. I have written articles before and they take a painstaking amount of time with research to get a framework up before it can be worked on. I have to say almost 75% of the time spent on doing articles is research alone. I really think that this user should let her finish the work.
     
    melbel, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    """""""Jessica says:
    my lawyer is informed""""""""""

    You will tell your lawyer oh dear, this is INTERNET, billion dollar sites get hacked and Ddos'd and ownd by hackers and lawyers cant do anything. You will sue a guy because he doesn't want to work with you. He has full right to cancel an agreement if he is not content.
     
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    Also, he left her negative iTrader saying "dishonest"
     
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    Kashem, you are in the wrong. You contracted jmousseau to do a job. On completion if they are not up to standard, then you have a right to reject them.

    Your conduct falls well outside professional conduct as would be expected when dealing with freelancers.

    You have not give jmousseau a chance to prove herself.

    I have been in the marketing PR business for 30 years. Your conduct would have ended up in court in my country. Jmousseau should request you be banned so no other DP member gets messed around.
     
    dalt, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    Did you actually get a contract written up? Simply stating that he wants you to do the articles is not enough and would never hold up in court. Also, it seems like English is not Kashem's native tongue so I'm assuming he's not from America. The laws are different everywhere so even if you did have a contract and you did contact your lawyer, who's to say you'll be favoured?

    This is how I see it: He wanted articles, you didn't complete any of them, he told you to stop writing the articles, he didn't receive any of the articles, you didn't receive payment. In conclusion, MOVE ON.

    He didn't get the articles, you didn't get the money. You both never gained nor lost anything.
     
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    yea..if you the product was never delivered to buyer,then its almost a no deal..if you have the articles though i may buy them off ya
     
    templates, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    But he/she lost time on it, unless she finishes and sells to another buyer. You should never assume anything in deal, ask the seller your questions, if they are not answered, you can pull out.
     
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    Well jmousseau did lose valuable time and wasted energy because kashem gave her the go ahead to work on the articles, then hours later changed his mind about it. That's not good, and it is worth getting mad over.
     
    Blogsip, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    She has the right to get mad but he told her to stop and she chose to continue and demand payment for something he was no longer interested in.
     
    Jerlene.net, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    #15
    If you worked 5 hours on something and then was told to stop, you would feel the same way I did, other projects were pushed aside and the time will not be compensated.....

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ALL.
    And honestly, I'm not too worried about his itrader....clients know my work around this forum.
     
    jmousseau, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    Jerlene.net Prominent Member

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    He gave you a negative iTrader?
     
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    wont he pay you at 5 hours of article writers fees? i always thought you guys went on word counts so to be fair he should at least pay you that :(
     
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    I'm not giving him anything now, I'll sell them to someone else that is going to pay me more and appreciate me for my work.

    THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS ALL!!
    I won't be posting anymore on this.
     
    jmousseau, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    I agree he should of paid her for her time. She didn't do anything illegal or something that broke their agreement.
     
    Blogsip, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    His worries were legitimate though.
     
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