I ran out of places to submit to...

I signed up here because I have submitted to thousands of directories and articles, blogs and forums. Every niche possible for my site I have submitted to. I rank in top 5 for many of the keywords I want to win but need that little extra. It feels kinda dumb typing I ran out of places to submit, but when you look at list after list after list for directories, articles, or social bookmarking and 99% are already on my list...what to do next? I would extremely appreciate any new avenues of SEO as I feel I legitmately have exhausted free directories, articles, and niche forums/blogs. Anyone else have the same dilema? I'm tempted to make "new" sites just so I can utilize these SEO resources. Please tell me there's something else...looking through a 6k list of directories to find 4 new ones is getting old.

 

keep writing articles, new articles, and submit them to the article directories.

litter the articles with your desired keywords!

 

So are you looking for more backlinks? or do you just want to rank higher for certain keywords??

I assume you using H1 and H2 header tags, meta tags and all that jazz? Another option is trying to get some PR for your articles rather than the main page.

If you just want more backlinks - search for the D-list, it's a list of blogs with a no-follow tags.

 

sorry I wasn't real clear on it; richkid your answer sounds like my only true option right now..I was thinking the same. I submit to a bunch of article directories once a month...can I do it daily, weekly, or is monthly pushing it? I'm concerned with SERP positioning only as my PR is increasing indirectly. Thanks for suggestions, but am I doomed to only submit to article directories, or is there something MORE. Onsite SEO covered as well. Surely someone must know how to increase SERPS outside of what I have discussed in my first post.

 

i think you must start using article marketing for your site

 

If your going to reply at least have the decency to read the entire thread...I have submitted to article directories already and do it monthly...my SEO has hit a brick wall. I'm out of directoires, articles, niche blogs, niche forums, to submit to. I'm really surprised no one else has. Only thing I can do is wait for new directories on sites like directorycritic, or go to new directories section on this site. No one has any legitamate advice?

 

Sponge, just a thought that may or may not be applicable to your specific site. If you can pin down the keywords you want to focus on, you can redirect the internal linking structure on your website to maximize the pages that feature those keywords.

• Put anchor text using those keywords on links from other pages in your site to these important pages.
• Then try to minimize the outgoing links from those pages that you are trying to maximize.

It might just be that little bit extra that gives you the edge you are seeking.

 

Jim, that's a great idea. I'm going to try to utilize that. Do you personally do anything different SEO wise or just utilize the directories. Will commenting on blogs, forums with my anchor text helps SERPS? I could care less if they help PR at this point

 

Jim's suggestion is well worth following up.

Try and put together some really good, I mean above average content that might attract links organically? If you tell us the niche you are in, I'll happily brainstorm some ideas for some rich content you can knock up. You can then either let a blogger or another webmaster use this content in exchange for a link, or add it to your site and submit it to digg/reddit/stumble and so on.

Good luck

 

As others have noted, getting backlinks is only one factor in how your pages rank. Many experts think that on-site factors (improving your site) are more important than backlinks.

So I would suggest your try to improve your pages (add content, clean up code, etc). Another idea is to create new pages and link them to the old pages you are trying to optimize. These have the same effect as deep links that come from other sites.

 

Sponge, how many of the directories that you submitted to actually showed up when you checked your backlinks using Yahoo ? My point being, it isn't necessary to go and submit to every directory in the world. Since you rank in the top five, and I'm assuming here that your keyword is fairly competitive, you'd probably have a good amount of backlinks now. At a point like this, low quality free directories may not help you a lot.

Do you mind specifying your niche ? Might help for making suggestions regarding traffic and other stuff.

And do analyse what your competitors are doing. You might be able to spot something .

 

Make some minisites on your subject, put them on different hosts, have them link to your main site.
Write linkbait for Digg/stumbleupon.

 

I try to address new thoughts and strategies here

http://www.omg-1.com/experiment.html

Although once you have done every thing suggested then there is paid links from high PR and high traffic sites.

What is your niche?

 

I'm only interested in principles, and my niche isn't really all that important. I think creating mini sites was another great suggestion, thx Deano, I was thinking I had to do this since I exhausted my current options other than the monthly articles/social bookmarking.

gr8liverpoolfan your point is WELL noted, all too well out of thousands of directories I have submitted to, only a third have been accepted, and even less indexed, but the search engines are picking them up daily. So, I'm stuck making mini me sites and linking em together? I guess thats what happens when you wake up thinking about SEO *evil laugh*

Seperate question but since it was raised: Can you have these sites all on one host without a penalty...and are we talking 1-10 sites or more like 100+. I have the time to make these quality and SEO them btw, but it would be a lot more expensive with multiple hosts.

 

I just read an awesome blog on this. Its like you hit a brick wall huh? I believe it said to try to think of another "theme" to incorporate in to your website. Lets say your website is about computer programming. Start a page that has computer programming jokes. There are a million sites you can get links from about jokes. Put a new computer programming joke up every day. Now you can start linking to joke related sites and not just computer programming sites. You don't have to use jokes, that was just to get your brain moving. Think of other things like that. Good luck.

 

this might seem random but was it bluehatseo.com? I read something just like that there and it was interesting. Yes I need to break down this crappy wall...my will power has surpassed my directory list ;( . Now it's coming down to making new sites, articles, and themes.

 

yes it was

 

I also believe writing articles can be a good solution. About directories, I've heard it's optimal to submit to 6-8 daily, 10 maximum, or it could be considered spam or flooding (I don't remember the term).
By the way, do you (or anyone else) has a list of directories (at least the best ones) to submit?

 

Update your blog contents... Add more contents.. what's new and many others as long as it is related to your site and by the way join forums and enjoy discussions...

 

Sponge, this is the only forum I frequent. Digital Point does drive a modest amount of traffic to my website via the last three links in my signature. Whether it helps SERPs or not, I don't know. Old guy that I am, I generally don't frequent the blogs .

SEO-wise, I focus primarily on directories for inbound links. Also, I'm finding that by writing good content, I'm getting many "natural" links from readers choosing to link to a page(s) that they like on the website. Of course, on those naturally-gained links, you don't get to choose the anchor text. But sometimes the link-poster uses anchor text that is reasonably close to what you would like. To facilitate that, at the bottom of each webpage, I place instructions and recommended anchor text for those wishing to link to that page. To see an illustration of that, click the fourth link in my signature. One of the most important things I find to do SEO-wise is doing keyword research via DP's "Keyword Suggestion" tool. It helps you to ignore keywords that are seldom searched for and to discover and use keywords that are frequently searched for.

Best wishes in moving upward in the SERPs.