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Discussion in 'Google' started by Napoleon, Sep 3, 2007.

  1. #1
    Being in the last page in google results for a good keyword is better than a 10th or 11th page position. What do you think?
     
    Napoleon, Sep 3, 2007 IP
  2. DidierE

    DidierE Well-Known Member

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    I say it's about the same.
    You won't get much traffic if you're on the last page but neither if you are on page 10 or 11
     
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Why? Does anyone ever go to the last page? Why would anyone want to know what Google deems to be the least relevant results for a search term?
     
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  4. Napoleon

    Napoleon Peon

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    There is more chance that somebody hits the 'last page' link in the results than 10th or 11 page.
     
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    mvandemar Notable Member

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    Actually, I think the last page for many terms is reserved for penalties, not just least relevant. Speaking from experience here (unfortunately). :p

    -Michael
     
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    Sphinks Active Member

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    #6
    Many times last page could be lower than 10-11 :)
     
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    Trapped Well-Known Member

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    No way that last page in SERPs would drive more traffic, actually it would drive the same number of traffic for the given keyword 0-1 daily hits.
     
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    majjessimo Banned

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    I agree that it may get hit more, but it depends on the term. Some terms I would say 10th page is better then the first page. All depends on the compo in each niche.
     
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  9. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    dude thats not an accomplishment.... but a penalty

    Thats not Good but BAD

    thx
    malcolm
     
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  10. Napoleon

    Napoleon Peon

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    I don't know how its a penalty. I get a few hits for keywords like 'proxy websites' for my site from the last page(67 or something), that doesn't mean I'm penalized. I only get a few, but that is a bonus as I never optimised my site for that keyword.
     
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    #11
    That is a bad thing
     
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    Actually, I think this is an interesting point...I never search this way, but obviously some do. What if a site, totally blackhat, set out to occupy that lastposition for every major keyword...the spammier the better. Might add up to a few thousand hits a month, though I don't know what you'd do with them...redirect to a backward alphabet site...siht ekil sdaer taht enO

    Seo companies could advertise "Last position on the last page or your money forward!"

    A fad could take off where people search the last page.

    FFA's, porn and warez sites could sell links just for the Google benefit.

    Then there will be threads here about "my page was last on Google...now it's rising and I don't know what to do" and everyone will tell them just to stuff some more keywords or cloak some text, throw up a couple duplicate pages.

    We'll have entered the Bizarro world of SEO!
     
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    webcosmo Notable Member

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    10-11 may be better in the sense that you would have chance to improve going to first page.
     
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    For me 10-11 is better if you are starting hitting your keywords.
     
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    10-11 page is much better in my opinion.
     
    amor_fati, Sep 3, 2007 IP
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    #16
    good anyway since you get traffic from keywords you didn't target...

    one of my case, i didn't optimize my site for particular keywords but i got good traffic from searches that are like "asking question" or "looking for a part of something", those searches that searcher looking for particular answer to what they are looking for.
     
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    Barre Tire Peon

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    10 or 11 is much better because it is alot easier to imporve your position if you are on page 2 then page 20
     
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    priyakochin Banned

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    You can find the answer from urself.If u want to know abt something and search google, will u check 10th and 11th page or last page ?
     
    priyakochin, Sep 3, 2007 IP
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    tonyrocks Active Member

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    I usually check the 3rd position (totally ignoring their slant toward Wikipedia junk) and the 10th position on page 1...then I leave :)
     
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  20. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #20
    Page 10 or better is the cutoff that I use for DP's Keyword Tracker. I track about 65 keywords that are in Google's top 100 (= first ten pages).

    It is those keywords that I focus on in ongoing copywriting/editing and in link building in an attempt to raise them higher in the SERPs. By focusing effort on keywords down around pages 6-10, I've been able to move a lot of them up to the first three pages, and a good number onto page one.

    Tracking the top 100 results works for me. Someone else might, say, track the top 50 (= Google's first five pages of results). But whatever you choose, it gives you a reality check concerning which of your keywords have a chance for you to push them upwards onto better results pages with some dedicated writing, rewriting, title tweaking, link building, etc.
     
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