Divided we keep getting 0.01c per click from adsense. I have considered this for a while now and I think that the main reason most of us will never make any money is down to our self worth or the fact we are after a quick buck. there is always someone who would rather screw someone out of $500 than actually do the work and possibly get another $500 for the recommendation I realised that here on DP there is probably every skill we ever need to make a successful business. many many times over. I propose that instead of charging each other pennies for all the ridiculous jobs we are doing we instead band together and form a DP army. As individuals we are full of stop starts and failed ideas As a whole we are the potential for massive things. Imagine instead of having to wait and do everything yourself everyone on DP signed up to be part of a single website. we all link to it and promote it. Digg it promote it some more. SEO it etc etc etc Imagine if you did this for a forex website where the payouts are 10,000 per connection? I propose we build this army of knowledge and work together. If you are interested pledge here and PM me if it doesnt work then fair enough my point will be proven that we are all too self centred and plain selfish to ever work together properly.
Then this whole army will fight against each other to decide who's the big boss and who pockets the money
It's good idea...in theory. But what happens when there's million people in this army? Then we would need another "premium army" who would raise on the top to get some attention... And what if everybody needs to get digged? It would take a hell lot of time for one guy to go through everybody's websites And there's "only" 32000+ active members on these boards. Even if everybody would participate... it wouldn't be such a big army after all. It's a pretty good idea, but not sure if it would be really beneficial.
The problem isn't that we're all self centred and plain selfish, it's that we all have differnet levels of expertise and some of us are just plain lazy. So my first questions are: how do you propose to deal with different levels of expertise and free loaders? If you're proposing a reward based system, then how do you deal with different levels of expertise and how do you track work done? I'm always interested if it means I can learn more about SEO.
A reward system would just be stupid. Why work for reward points when you ca work for money? I mean, what would the difference be?
I'd be willing to help but if too many people become a part of this it would be very chaotic and it would be hard to ever agree on something.
You can't of course have 30 000+ people in this army. That would'nt help at all.. It should be more than a few representative for each category. 2 PHP programmers 2 HTML/AJAXs 2 SEO's 2 Flash designers .. etc etc etc And trading services for your own site wouldn't do much good either. It would be much easier to just start one big site together then.. For example a site about real estate (since it's alot of money in it!)..
Why do you assume a reward system is based on points? A reward system is based on rewarding people for the work that they have done. It can as easily be based on monney as on points.
I think it is a nice idea, but not with too many people. If there are real plans, than you can contact me.
Agreed I do think if we can put together around 10-15 people with a range of abilities and we just agree straight up that all of the profits are just shared equally with no arguements then we might be ablwe to do it. Linkweb i will PM you details. So to begin i think we need 2 x web designers 1 x graphics designers 1 x SEO + already got me 1 x ppc campaign manager (may fall under SEO) and of course the marketing side of it. I imagine that most people on here will have some knowledge of marketing so everyone can put their bit in but we need 1 x link building expert 1 x directory submitter 1 x forum poster / content writer + anyone who has something to offer that would make our new website rank better than it does now. for the first idea i have 2 domains and income idea i just need my first generals for the army. I will donate the domains hosting and my SEO time to this i need the people listed above. All money will be shared out equally between everyone with a predetermined amount (i would probably suggest 10%) is put aside to fund the next project. treat this like a job application and post previous conquest details here or pm me directly.
tubosatan, I might be your content guy. I've got a Masters degree in Social Studies, was working on my phd before a career change took me online. I've got several publications in acadmenic journals and books. But I'm more interseted in learning different aspects of SEO than just being a cog in the machine.
You have a good idea but in honesty, you have the same theory as Marxism or Communism. The problem is that it is human nature to look out for your own interest so someone would fight to be on top. How would it be determined who is due what? Will everyone get an equal share? You end up with either people leaving your army or just getting lazy and not wanting to put in the effort because they will get the same amount either way. Nice idea, however, I do not see it working with people from such a diverse culture and background with varying degrees of ability and talents. Maybe you should advertise locally for a team willing to share your vision.
SEO is pretty much a set of rules which you can learn. By making content and having it gone over by an SEO you will learn. I can also tech you what i know about SEO as we go on. If your interested in being part of the team then gimme a PM and i will tell you my first couple of ideas. i may have the same concept as marxism or communism or whatever. I think given a little time and effort we will find the people who can make the difference here. the thing that draws us all here is our need to make money and market a website. where better to find money hungry people who are good at marketing? Anyway moving forward i have a link builder an SEO and a graphics designer. i am looking for website designers now to put together quick good looking sites. PHP would be preferable. Join The DP Army Today!
Here's the problem with communism, all jobs are not created equally. If your plans feel that a forum poster, graphics guy or directory submitter is worth the same as a programmer ... your priorities are way out of whack. In reality, you only need 4 people for small - medium projects 1. Billy Bad Ass programmer (sql, php or other + js) 2. Developer for Graphics, HTML & CSS + low end content writing 3. Marketing - Out of the box guy who doesn't submit to directories but rather has solid fundamentals in how to market online + SEO + high end content writing + long term business planning 4. Financial - Someone will have to fork up some money for long term gain. Set up LLC & dealing with the legal side. In the above example, the split should go something like Programmer 35% Developer 10% Marketing 20% Financial 35% Without an unbalanced split, this is where communism fails. If you do not reward someone with more education/experience then you will not get 100% effort from them. Also, the marketing person would have to be the toughest choice involved. There are many bad ways to market (such a flawed belief in PR) that will get you nowhere. The financial guy might be difficult to find depending on your startup costs. I, personally, like the idea of pooling resources but I'd much rather hand pick the person because of the work I have seen them do, not their ability to comment on a thread. Communism, in it's purest form, is an excellent thing (this coming from an American). However, You will never get to the point in society where a garbage man and a doctor make the same money and are happy about it. Somewhere logic, greediness or whatever you want to call it steps in.
I think its a great idea- but i see more problems and bickering than anything else, unless a "board of directors" od sorts was made, and even then problems would still exist..the social networking part of it would be quite feasible though, i think
Great ideas, for sure. You all stole my fire mentioning communism, though - communism won't work in the real world. However, in the digital(point) world, it's one of the best forms of networking. I'm all for everyone helping one another. You pat my back, I pat yours. I also think that unless we get a cohesive force together with some sort of plan of action, we're going to be spinning our tires getting nowhere.
I think it is a good idea also. I cannot claim to be an expert in any of those areas because I am always learning, but one thing is for sure, I am definitely not lazy. Send me your idea turbosatan and I will help out wherever needed.