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Death of Google's PR to threaten Directories?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by The Pheonix, Aug 9, 2007.

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  1. LeopardAt1

    LeopardAt1 Well-Known Member

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    #41

    So your saying theres no difference from a backlink from a directory that has no registered PR and a backlink from an established authority directory like Alive....thats just nonsense. Don't try kidding yourself.

    And no, I never suggested any directory to carry as much weight as DMOZ. I was simply referring to well established ones.
     
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  2. workshop

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    #42
    How old is that thread? They appear to be discussing PR? :D

    Speak to anyone who uses the free directory lists. Submit your site, get a 60% approval and watch your sites hop and skip through the rankings. Its mind numbing work and there is no guarantee that the links will not be dumped. But most of the sites convert to paid and become so called "quality" sites once they have gained a bit of padding. So I cant see what anyone has against the practice nor why anyone would pay $200 a year for the same thing.
     
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    #43
    Sorry but thats how it came across ;)
    Who is kidding who and why? Thats the question I am asking.
     
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  4. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #44
    For me:

    I would like to keep PR. It shows achievement - how well your link campaign is going, how much backlinks affect your SERPs, and how much on page work affects them.

    As a bidding directory owner, i have made quite a bit whilst having PR0. However, many people refuse to submit right now as the only submit to directories with PR.

    Also, PR was where google started, PR was named after one of their founders, PR was the system that made googles results more accurate than yahoo, msn etc so i really dont think they would kill PR off.

    If they did, they would replace it with something else, like strength or trust - so older, more established sites with more relevant backlinks got better ranked, rather than those who buy a PR8 link from a foreign travel site that has no relevancy at all.
     
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  5. mystikmedia

    mystikmedia Jedi Master

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    #45
    Most people submit to web directories to achieve quality links to their web sites which will in turn improve search engine rankings, right? If Google does away with PR, this will not change. The only thing that will change is that everyone will use some other metric to judge which directories are most valuable. PageStrength is probably the best positioned currently to fill this gap since they already have everything in place. All they would need to do is remove PR from their equation, make a toolbar, and there you have it...
     
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  6. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #46
    Exactly. Then other metrics would be used, like alexa, backlinks count etc
     
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  7. vicdigi

    vicdigi Banned

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    #47
    If this is the case then higher search engine through results through sheer search engine optimisation is going play an even bigger part than what it does now.
     
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  8. vicdigi

    vicdigi Banned

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    #48
    They would submit becasue the website/directory has high search engine results on many search terms and is a related site.

    Alexa rank can be manipulated by buying trafffic which is something not recommended.
     
    vicdigi, Aug 10, 2007 IP
  9. tdoggy

    tdoggy Well-Known Member

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    #49
    "PageRank has started a flawed econonmy of link building and trading in an effort to raise or distribute these scores."

    What's so flawed about it? The only flaw I see is that someone other than Google gets to capitalize on it. Hardly a flaw. If you don't care about PR, then don't build or trade on it.
     
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  10. amitpatel_3001

    amitpatel_3001 Results Follow Patience

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    #50
    I guess Page Rank Technology of google is going to be removed within 3 months.

    Source :
    http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3416514.htm
    http://www.searchenginejournal.com/goodbye-google-pagerank/5465/

    What do think a webmaster would do now because many people do Business based on PR and especially the Directory Owners here (Its the Fact)

    What do you think will be the next measure to value a website or promote /rate directories?

    Many people say they odnt care about PR but i have seen they still make money on the basis of PR only here.
     
    amitpatel_3001, Aug 10, 2007 IP
  11. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #51
    I will develop a professional tool to measure strength of a directory based upon several metrics. I dont think they will remove PR.
     
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  12. vicdigi

    vicdigi Banned

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    #52
    Search engine optimisation in a big way.

    Buy up links from sites with no PR that are ranking higher than you in search engines.

    And to add to that - I don't think PR will be removed either.
     
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  13. Awareness

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    #53
    they would have to introduce something new

    as someone here already said many people know google only because of the pr thing.
     
    Awareness, Aug 10, 2007 IP
  14. Creative_illusion

    Creative_illusion Well-Known Member

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    #54
    Is this the reason why it takes too much time for PR to update? :confused:
     
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  15. amitpatel_3001

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    #55
    My personal feeling is :

    They cannot remove such a Big technology with billions of money invested in R&D
    They can do it because PR has now become very famous
     
    amitpatel_3001, Aug 10, 2007 IP
  16. SumitBahl

    SumitBahl Reign of Chaos

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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    #57
    They won't discontinue the technology. They may just stop revealing the PR on the toolbar.
     
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    #58
    Umm I'm unsure what to think! PR is way over hyped, and Google know it! With the link buyers thriving for unrelevant high PR links to manipulate search it could eventually come to an end. Just my thoughts...

    End of an era, and something new will appear...
     
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    #59
    I guess that will kill the directories business at least for the small ones
     
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  20. amitpatel_3001

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    #60
    True but these external sources can always be counted as hints or pre announced news too :confused:
    Better to stay awake and plan on something new regarding this before everyone is in a loss.
     
    amitpatel_3001, Aug 10, 2007 IP
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