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Founder of Crips Gang to be executed

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yo-yo, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #41
    Nope, if we are talking about what I would prefer, then let me and my family have 30 minutes alone with him ;)

    But in reality, prison is just a small city and while he is not "free" to do as he pleases, he also does not have to suffer in prison they way he should, so, kill him and be done with it.

    See the problem is that prison is not hard, it's not tough enough, does it suck...yes, will you get raped? depends on who you know. Prison becomes a routine after awhile and they just get on. It's way to soft.

    Just my humble opinion, not trying to start any arguments or anything, I just think that there are people in our society that deserve to die.
     
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  2. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #42
    I understand that, and If they were killed by slowly pulling their intestines out of ther mouth or something (WFT?!?) then I'd *almost* agree...

    But they don't die like that do they. They are given an injection, or electrocuted or some other lame ass thing like that...

    Frankly, I would rather die than know I had to spend life in the nick.

    Solitary confinement is pretty terrible. As are another number of punishments that can be used, but IMHO, death is a cop-out. It's an easy way out of living with your guilt.

    (In the UK) if a *beast* gets sent down, they don't tend to have a good time. They would be someone's bitch, and would have a visit most nights from "Big Paulie" or something...

    Let them rot and die in there - it's not like they are living... Just surviving.

    Two wrongs don't make a right and all that...
     
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  3. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #43
    While I understsand your points I guess we just have to agree to disagree. While it is quick, I still don't have to worry about them escaping and doing it again.

    Personally I think they should go medieval style and Guillotine people in town square, but, thats just me ;) I think that would put a dent in the crime rate.
     
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    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    #44
    Haha the UK has a bunch of gay criminals.:D
     
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  5. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Now, if that person gets on the death row...

    Would that bring my daughter back?
    Would my daughter go to heaven because he got the capital punishment by the govt?

    It's not ours to judge about life and death, but if someone commits a crime as you mentioned we have the obligation to keep him away from the society, so that he can't do that anymore.
     
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  6. mdvaldosta

    mdvaldosta Peon

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    #46
    The death penalty is a deterrent. No it wouldn't bring your daugther back, but it would have decreased the odds that someone would have done such a terrible crime.
     
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    SEbasic Peon

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    #47
    How?
    The US have the death penalty, yet also one of the highest rates of gun crime in the world...
    Personally, I think it's a shit deterrant.

    In the UK, we don't have the death penalty, but I would also say that the existing punishments we do make use of are adequate.

    (Added)
    Also, people don't think before they commit the crime "Oh, I better not do this because I could get in trouble"... They just don't think about getting caught.
     
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  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Is crime decreasing in the States because of capital punishment? - Guess not.
    The same in China, Singapore or elsewhere.
     
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  9. Hodgedup

    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    #49
    We have completely different gun laws. Anyone can get a gun. The police don't even normally carry guns in the UK do they?
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #50
    If people could actually see the people getting killed I think the death penalty would be gone by now

    Have you ever seen videos of executions? If they ran that on TV I think it would be abolished pretty quick, the out cry would be huge.
     
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  11. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #51
    We have to stop crimes not lives!
     
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    #52
    Well, thats pithy.
     
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    #53
    All of your posts Arnie look they could be written on posterboards for picketers to walk around with.:D
     
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  14. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #54
    Yep, seen it and would happily watch a child molestor or mass murderer done the exact same way. I don't think the outcry would be that huge, we are a society completely numb to death on TV.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Capital punishment doesn't solve any problem but creates one more!
     
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  16. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #56
    I thought exactly the same thing ;)

    Arnie, while great in theory, if we could figure out a way to stop crime I would gladly see the death penalty abolished.
     
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    SEbasic Peon

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    #57
    They've started to carry them...

    But yeah, it was a bad example...

    I guess I'mn just tying to make the point that in the UK we don't have the death penalty, but crime rates aren't huge...

    I think in the case of a child molestor or something like that, newspapers are the best ammunition.

    Occationally you'll hear about a little girl going missing, then someone gets caught, and the papers follow the whole thing - frequently going into detail about the mob rule that you get in this kind of situation...
    http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/152/152068_man_was_killed_by_mistake.html

    There are loads of similiar stories like that...

    I don't think most people would dare do anything like that, simply because the concept of being ripped to shreads by a crowd of angry people would scare the shit out of anyone.
     
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  18. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #58
    First step: abolish capital punishment
    Second: people should become more sociable and observe each other in a loving and careing way.

    - just for to start with...
     
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    #59
    How the hell do we do the second one? Hugs and lollypops?
     
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  20. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #60
    And then we all get ponies and ice cream and chocolate cake.... :rolleyes:

    We don't live in that world man, sorry to disappoint.
     
    palespyder, Oct 31, 2005 IP