To most Jews, Jesus was nothing but an impostor. Simply irrelevant!

No stranger than you claiming to post what Jews think about Christianity.

According to your 'logic', you have no business creating or posting in this thread do you? Since you are neither Jewish or Christian - what business do you have speaking about what either religion thinks? Like most every post you make at DP - the ones you made on this thread are worthless.

 

It's very cool to hear that from someone non Jewish after reading so much that is targetted to make Jews look bad.
No, Jews do not recognize Jesus as God's son, God in the flesh or even as a prophet. The bible calls however on Christians to support the children of Israel. I am Jewish by blood and Christian by belief and I had a few Jewish friends try to "bring me back", but it was never in an angry, hateful or disrespectful way.
One line I get a lot is "we as Jews feel like we're losing ourselves with people like you leaving the culture".

To me the topic of this thread is badly chosen. If you are a Christian and believe you are right, then you should pray for those who don't believe the same way.

The whole accusations of hating arabic people is bogus as well. It's funny how so many people don't believe in the Bible, try to discredit it, yet use it when it serves the purpose of bashing Jews.

Mike

 

Could someone perhaps clear something up for me that I frequently find confusing.

Jews = The People, The culture right?
Judaism = A religion.

Is it not possible to be a Christian Jew?

It may seem a bit off topic, but I always get confused about this stuff:

Before Jesus was on earth there were no Christians. There were essentially those that belived in one god, and those that believed in many gods.

Orginally Christians are the group of people who believed that Jesus was the prophet fortold in the bible. Those who rejected this belief continued to follow Judaism and await the fortold prophet.

Prior to being Christians, they were following something else, perhasps Jusasim or perhaps Roman Gods, or some mixture.

In general a religion only "changes" as a result of disagreement in one or more portions of 'what actually happened'.

It is likely that any future coming of a messiah would continue to occur in the same way (those that believe it, and those that reject it) right?

There would then need to be some "name" by which the believers would refer to themselves and those which the non-believers would refer the themselves.

In all cases, I would think..those that are jewish remain jewish, those that are american remain american, those that are mexican remain mexican..but again this part always confuses me I guess.

 

What a totally messed up thread...first off, Kafer, you have things really messed up, you have been listening to Gworld way to much. Most of the opinions in here about Jews and their beliefs about Jesus are wrong. While many do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God, many do. Even in his own day, many did. How do you think Christianity got started? Jesus' apostles (who were Jewish!) spread the news, to jews and to gentiles. Hence the birth of Christianity. Furthermore, there is a branch of Judaism that still recognizes Jesus as the Messiah, and as the Savior who will come back to judge everyone.

 

Yeah, the title of the thread does sound kind of inflammatory as if it were written to try to anger some christians. As far as reading things targetted to make Jews look bad, I think there are just a few hamas wannabees on this forum and they try to spew their anger out. But the Jewish people don't lower themselves to that level, so you really don't see Jewish people on here acting all crazy. But, yes I think Jewish people and Christians should stick together.

 

This isn’t a messed up thread. Presenting the commonly perceived view of one cult toward another is valid and healthy. People should know what others are saying about their belief.

You can’t accept others criticising your faith that’s why you got angry. The quotes I’ve listed here are not mine, they are from Jews who rightly defend their religion. To most Jews, Jesus was an impostor and a liar “A false prophet” whether you like or not, that’s the truth. If they accepted Jesus as a true prophet there wouldn’t be 2 religions as we know of today.

When you criticise Islam you make all sort of rational and logic to present you argument. However when it comes to defending your own faith you make all sorts of irrational and illogical explanations. A doublethink concept as George Orwell's once defined in 1984.

 

like I said, this is a messed up thread...I would love to see your source for "most jews", because almost every single one I know (and I live in an area that has several synagogues), not only do they recognize Jesus as just a prophet, but they accept him as a teacher. As the son of God, no, as the messiah, not until he comes back. Till then, much like Islam, he is just another wise prophet to them. I'm not defending my faith here, I am defending the faith of a lot of my friends, and again, I am challenging your use of the words "most jews"

 

This is what they say:

Judaism's view

Judaism's view of Jesus


The Mishneh Torah (an authoritative work of Jewish law) states:

 

Don't waste your time on d16boy, he is a moron that doesn't know anything about history and Jewish or Christianity religions. He gets directions from neo-cons establishment about what ass to kiss and he does it. I can't wait until they tell him to kiss some Arab's ass from Saudi Arabia.

 

This is from a guy who thinks catholism invented Christianity.

D16man has more working knowledge than you have shown, I am guessing you went to catholic school as a young boy and that is why you have a certain view until something happened that seriously sent you on a rampage against Christians and Jews to the point of saying to yourself, the enemy of my enemy is my friend....

 

Here we have the local moron who was claiming Catholicism is not Christianity and only his preacher knows about Christianity. Your stupidity in the age of Internet is simply amazing, I can understand that people like you will never come in contact with a book but you can at least search the history of Christianity on the Internet.

I am still waiting for your answer to my previous question:

 

Seriously why did you post your oppinion right after the 1st post since most people don't care if you believe or not in God. Your reply contributed nothing to the topic and it should be deleted as it is off topic.

 

Here you are trying to defend your belief, yet the disciples were preaching before the catholic church was created by Rome. For one who professes to know history so well, you seem to be ignorant of some of the most basic facts.

As far as your other post, I only see the posts that people reply to, I still have you on ignore unless I do something stupid like read the prior post which I replied to. The question you asked has no value except to satisfy your desire to try to put people in their place below you somehow. Your attempts to portray yourself as some authority in any subject except child p-rn has proven fatal.

 

She made a perfectly good point. She used the OP's own thought against him.

 

Keep on posting, the more you post, more people who understand about these things can see what a hill billy you are and how stupidly you believe in everything that your preacher tells you.

still waiting for the answer to this simple question:

 

Explain please how is this sentence a perfectly good point to the discussed topic.
"yea i dont believe in god so yup yup it's totally irrelevant"


Are you seeing things that I am missing? I would like more light on that.

 

Yeah, yeah! That was sweet of you to console a fellow "brethren" in his time of need.

I shouldn't have to remind you...you are supposed to be pretending to be an atheist. Hate to see you blow your cover too

 

Do you even bother reading Debunked's posts or are you just waiting for him to post so you can flame again?

 

Did you see the title? Her post is a perfect response from her point of view. Do you know what irrelevant means? Because if anything your post was irrelevant to the thread.

 

He can't read or his program doesn't interpret it correctly into his language????

I wasn't going to click to see his post again, but you showed me with your reply.

Gworld reread my post and you will have my answer. BTW if anybody is a hill billy who is ignorant, you sure live up to the stereotype. Do you have the old pickup on blocks to back it up? Do you live in a single wide or double wide?