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What is blackhat and can it be used in this day and age?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by designerz, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi guys a quick discussion o what is blackhat SEO, i dont really understand as i can tell these are the differences

    Blackhat:
    Blog Spam
    Cloaking
    Tricky Re-directs
    Black Hat SEO stops at "nothing" to get a high ranking.
    People not following the google guidelines.

    White Hat:
    Content, Content, Content
    Relevant backlinks
    Site maps
    White Hat SEO follows the Google quality guidelines (and the equivalent at other engines) to the letter.

    But hasnt the search engines always said you need relevant backlinks to receive good serp positions, so in what way can blackhat help because they will still have all the hard work of geting relevant links... Or have we all been mislead too believe that links are most important when they actually are not :eek:

    Your opinions?
     
    designerz, Jul 15, 2007 IP
  2. gopher292

    gopher292 Peon

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    The idea of blackhat is to automatically generate thousands or even millions of pages about long-tail keywords.

    Even if 1% of those pages gets a half a dozen visitors per month each:

    1,000,000 pages * 1% * 6 = 60,000 visitors per month

    And since their covered with ads, ctr is pretty good:

    60,000 * 10% ctr * $0.20/click = $1200

    The SE's (google at least) ban bh sites quickly, so you need to keep generating more and more sites.

    As for relevant links, BH sites work better on uncompetitive niches where you don't need much link strength at all to rank.
     
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  3. designerz

    designerz Banned

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    So do they use some sort of cloaking scrpt to make all these pages?
     
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    #4
    "cloaking" is serving different pages to visitors and search engines (in the case of BH, to keep the pages from getting banned as quickly)

    But you would use an automated script to generate and upload generated pages (or use .htaccess and generate them when they're accessed)

    You can get content to put on the pages by having the script scrape search results, wikipedia pages, or even generate gibberish with the keyword you want scattered through it.
     
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    Blackhat is a definite no no. Don't even think about trying it.
     
    tennisplayer89, Jul 15, 2007 IP
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    Madmurphy Active Member

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    Yeah. It just makes it harder for the rest of us.
     
    Madmurphy, Jul 15, 2007 IP
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    im least bothered abt black hat.. im good in white hat
     
    bullzeye, Jul 15, 2007 IP
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    black hat is illegal.
     
    khaty, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    #10
    the black hat methods that work, are not given away for free / told on public forums.

    It's not illegal lol, robbing a bank is illegal, using blackhat is legal...

    --



    For more info on up to date black hat methods, join this forum

    http://www.seoblackhat.com/forum/
     
    WunschShrek, Jul 16, 2007 IP
  11. mistamagoo

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    If you mean Black-hat SEO, No it's not illegal. It's just against webmaster guidelines. Theres a big difference.

    But seriously, don't use blackhat seo. Just because it isn't illegal doesn't mean it's worth using.
     
    mistamagoo, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    Blackhat techniques may help in the short term but don't bother... SEO is all about playing the long game.
     
    mrbeaver, Jul 16, 2007 IP
  13. trichnosis

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    black means that you want to cheat from search engines. black seo is not suggested way. when a search engines catch that you use black seo, it will punish you
     
    trichnosis, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    you'll get higher rankings in no time but you have to pay the price if you get caught.
     
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    Black Hat should be illegal IMO. It would make the world a better place!

    Imagine if getting good SERP rankings simply meant setting up your meta tags well :D
     
    Hade, Jul 16, 2007 IP