Zip submit, short form offers and PPC ???

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by nikolaaa, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    I'm new with azoogle and found suggestions that it's good to start with zip offers or short form offers.
    CPA is from $1.20 to $2.20 and I don't know how are you doing it becouse click on adwords for related keywords are more expecive that CPA on azoogle.

    Are you just going with long keywords that are rarely searched ?
     
    nikolaaa, Jun 25, 2007 IP
  2. pmpod

    pmpod Peon

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    i've always wondered the same thing, i'm assuming that HIGHLY targeted keywords would enable this to work up some profit
     
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    tradeepak Banned

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    #3
    they r not meant for traffic through search
     
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  4. pilky

    pilky Active Member

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    Sure they are meant for traffic through search. I do a zip submit payday loans offer that only pays out 1.65, but I get a 70% conversion on it. That means it competes with the high paying offers where the punter has to fill out a big long form and you get $20 or something, but the conversion is only 5% or so.

    These offers are great for testing new landing pages and stuff because you don't need massive traffic to figure out your ROI.
     
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  5. nikolaaa

    nikolaaa Well-Known Member

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    What about linking from adwords direct to offer page?
     
    nikolaaa, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  6. pilky

    pilky Active Member

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    Your quality score will suck and adwords will raise your minimum bids so high that you won't be able to profit.

    Direct linking works well enough for adcenter though, although there isn't much traffic. I've heard that it is possible to make a few $ direct linking with YSM too.
     
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    YSM doesn't allow direct links to email/zip submits anymore.. some rule about "no ads that are only intended to collect personal information"
     
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    Pilky

    What do you do about the QS. I had an offer that was working great until they set my min bid to $10!

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
     
    GrassR00ts, Jul 3, 2007 IP
  9. pilky

    pilky Active Member

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    The only thing you can really do about the QS is put some form of landing page in there. Many people have been creating a LP using an iframe to pull the affiliate offer page into the body of the page and just adding the standard setup below (500 word article, contact, about & privacy links), however I think this is against TOS for adsense & yahoo (I could be wrong).
     
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    True, I tried promoting offers for Azoogle on PPC and the minimum bids are way too high to profit. I recommend using an I Frame and pumping up the domain with tons of backlinks...It's not the landing page. It's the overall domain that google looks at to determine minimum bid as well as some other factors.
     
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    Yaaa..I am wondering what is the code to enter iframe + article + adsense code on top?

    Thanks
     
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  12. Volknet

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    You guys dont really need to direct link the offer if you can just talk to your affiliate manager about "prepopulating" the landing page.

    Often you can just have the zip form or email form on your LP and once the user hit's submit, you can get paid. Higher conversion this way, better ability for QS.

    Remember, direct linking is only good for a short period of time... till the next guy thinks of it. They only show 1 ad per domain per search. So if you're both using the same display domain, good luck getting any traffic.
     
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    Geez I'm learnign so much stuff I didn't know the first time I tried CPA it's ridiculous.. no wonder I failed :D
     
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    Pre-population of offers are really kinda rare, and most offers don't offer this. Unless you're an e-mail marketer and can append the e-mail to your url, it's quite rare to find an offer that can check the url of the visitor and append their Zip code in.

    Although I've heard of such offers, haven come across them yet. I believe such offers will have much higher conversions, those lazy blokes just have to click n u get paid.

    Most zip/e-mail offers have crap landing page (megapromotions, giveawaycafe etc.) You'll do better creating ur own landing pages.
     
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    Although you may be right, my experience speaks otherwise.

    MOST advertisers I have worked with will either A: set it up, or B: have it already set up for certain users.

    If you show conversions on the offer or a similar offer in the same niche, I have not had any turn me down.
     
    Volknet, Jul 14, 2007 IP