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Strange. Got first on MSN, but no traffic

Discussion in 'Bing' started by DomainMagnate, Oct 10, 2005.

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    A strange thing happened to me. One of my site pages is first for a keyword with overture of over 1,100, but all the traffic I received is just... one visitor in 2 weeks.

    Is MSN so unpopular?
     
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  2. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    I get quite a bit traffic from MSN. It could be that overture is wrong yet again. What is the keyword if you dont mind? PM if you want
     
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    just-4-teens Peon

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    hehe msn sends me tonnes of traffic and both are teen related, so i guess it not only depends on the keyword your targetting but the target audience too.

    Ive noticed that msn seems more popular with teens (in th uk atleast) because msn have the whole free email, chat, msn groups etc - plus for people that are newish to computers when you install windows MSN search is set to default search so its likely they will use that.
     
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    How many results do they show for your keyword? It could be that it is a very low traffic keyword.
     
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  5. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #5
    There 33,000 pages of results (or about 330K results for that keyword)
    If you are interested, the keyword is real hyip (the link goes directly to MSN results page)
    DigitalPoint keyword suggestion tool shows overture 38.3/day and wordtraker of 8/day
    The keyword is indeed a low traffic one, but hey, only one MSN referer in 2 week?!

    BTW, how are google, yahoo, and MSN searches correlate with overture and wordtraker?
    DO you think it should be something like google usually get 10 times more searches on every term in average than overture...?
     
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  6. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    I am not sure what all WordTracker uses for its results but I know Keyword Discovery uses basically all the popular search engines and is far more accurate.

    The reason why you are not getting any hits is because this term is rarely searched for. I show it as under 1 search a day. :(
     
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  7. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    Nice tool, I didn't know about it, thanks.
    Where did you found that it has below 1 search/day? I only see there some 7, but I don't know what exactly does it mean...
    The result here are very different from overture... so which one is more trustable?
     
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  8. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Keyword Discovery gets its information for a lot more sources so is more accurate. They get it from MSN, Yahoo, and Google just to name a few. The 7 you see is how many times its in the database. To see occurances, kei, searches per day, ect you have to analyze it. But I am not sure if you can do that with the free version.
     
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    Overture isn't the most accurate tool. Perhaps the search term is not as popular as overture says.
     
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  10. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    I agree that I was probably mislead by overture...
    But how can Keyword Discovery know what people are looking for at google, MSN and Yahoo, if google, for example doesn't publish this info?
     
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  11. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    How we collect the data

    The search engines listed below either provide their complete search logs and these are imported in full into our database, or samples are collected by scraping search statistics from ISP logs and other sources.

    Data is collected on daily basis however due to the index size, the online database is updated monthly.

    Basically they give them their logs. Thats why this tool is gaining popularity.
     
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    You can have the #1 result for a term that brings up 10 million results ...

    1. 10 Million results do not indicate it's a searched for term, just that the SE has that many pages showing that term.

    2. Being #1 for a term will not bring traffic if it's not a searched for term.

    ... I've learned this lesson myself - it can be exciting to get such a result, but obversly very disappointing to see that no one searches for it ... homework all these years after HS and college still looms ;)
     
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    I constantly in top 10 in msn for adult hosting/adult web hosting/porn hosting/porn web hosting and was 1st very long time (from msn beta)
    So msn gave me ~14 visitors monthly per each keyword.

    My friend with /adult hosting/ in yahoo in top 10 has just 30 visitors monthly.
     
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    Overture is not a accurate tool
     
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    Try the digital point tool. It displays word tracker and overture. ;)
     
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  16. DomainMagnate

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    Yeah, I've tried the digital point tool, it's great.
    Do you mean google actually gives its search logs to some other companies to use them for recommending the best keywords, but doesn't list the searches in its site... are you sure?
     
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