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Basic question about best text for SEO website content...

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by bad_bob00, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi there,

    This is a bit of a basic question but I have been wondering the answer for quite a while...normally when I see a website page it will be named something like "this-is-a-website-page.html" and I was wondering, do the dashes (-) in between each word help with SEO?
    At the moment my website titles don't use the dashes between the words, mine are simply "thisisawebsitepage.html". Would I be more likely to get better SEO if I use the dashes? This goes for website file names, and image file names etc.

    Thanks for any help.
    Matt
     
    bad_bob00, Jun 25, 2007 IP
  2. bad_bob00

    bad_bob00 Active Member

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    No one able to help? :(

    All I want to know is which filename is better (and preferably why)...

    thisismyfilename.html

    or

    this-is-my-file-name.html


    Thanks for any help, reps will be given.
    Matt
     
    bad_bob00, Jun 26, 2007 IP
  3. richrf

    richrf Active Member

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    Hi Matt,

    What I did was look at sites with top SERP and copied what they did. Mostly I found hyphens.

    Rich
     
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    Use hypens as they are seen as spaces between words by the likes of Google. Also it looks more friendlier for your visitors.
     
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    #5
    Although I am unsure about how effective it is.. the standard accepted route is to use Hypens over straight spelling or underscores (this_page.html)
     
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    Thanks everyone, reps have been left :)

    Matt
     
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    I would suggest the hyphen format if there are many words :)
     
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    #8
    IMO, using dash or underscore is the same. There was a discussion about this: http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=4523.

    As to the original question, using dash/underscore will enhance the readability and that can be perceive as a sign of quality, which is something SE & human fond of. For hints, see what people from google use in their URL:

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/back-from-foo-camp/

    http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/06/revamping-webmaster-tools-help-center.html

    Hope that helps. :)
     
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    I my opinion it's better to make page names with dashes like: page-name.htm .

    and page titles with spaces "page name" .

    The page-name.htm isn't the same as pagename.htm.
     
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    Aah, that is correct. Matt did mentioned it somewhere. I think in general, underscore & hyphen got the same score if the targeted keyword is web, page or 'web page'. Out of curiosity, I just do a search in G and underscore has no problem getting ranked for those keyword.

    But in overall, I agree with you, just use hyphen if you can. :D
     
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    I am a big fan of underscore. Makes the url look nice and clear.

    All my links have the product ID and name

    http:// www. herbalade. com/4804_ShapeWorks_Advanced. html

    hope this helps
     
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    All you can do except underscores.
     
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    #15
    -'s are way better because google sees thisismypage.html as one word and this-is-my-page.html as 4 words.
     
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    I've got another question...
    Say I had a page name called "thisismypage.html" and since finding out about the importance of dashes between words in the file name, have changed it to "this-is-my-page.html". The old filename had a page rank of 2. By creating the newer file and deleting the old one, will I lose my page rank rating?

    Thanks for any help.
    Matt
     
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    YES... it is basically a NEW page to the SEs. In the future you should always do a 301 redirect to ensure the love is passed from the old page to the new one.
     
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    Setup a 301 Redirect from the old file name to the new one.

    *edit*

    Bah - David posted at the same time.
     
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    Great minds think alike ( and fools seldom differ) - we'll go with the former.
     
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    Thanks for this, never done a 301 Redirect before...how do I know if my server is running on Unix or Windows? :eek:
     
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