Seo Rip Off??

Ok this lady charge my friend $2400 for one year of seo work
here is what she says she provides in Corporate Level 1:


Optimization of your home page plus up to 5 additional pages for maximum exposure and traffic generation
Monthly submissions and reporting for up to 50 keyword phrases
Consultation with one of our project managers upon request. (max of 6 consultations)
Potential traffic increase of 250+ visitors PER DAY within 60 - 90 days.
Listing in the Top 20 of the major search engines

So once I found out my friend paid this I told him to ask
1. will she build content pages
2. Will she help with link popularity.

She replys


"Hi ,You can get content pages built but that is if you purchase a Corp Level Two($1500-$200 more). We can link you to anyone that you want us to with the package you have now. I need you to contact them and then tell us who you want to use and we will implement them into your optimization. Please email me the 50 phrases in the order starting with these, that you want us to use. Please do this so we will have the most current phrases that are the most important for your business. "

I reply for my friend saying

"Hi, Content is pretty key for good results. That is unfortunate that you do not provide content pages in our package. Regarding links. I was talking about link popularity.You getting site sto link to me. Me linking to other sites does nothing to help my rankings. Please tell me what exactly you plan on doing to achieve high rankings besides minor html things like changing tags/titles etc..
Speak soon
Thank you "


SHE REPLYS

"Everything we do is on the website for the package you purchased a Corp Level One. We also build relevance into your pages, link you to other industry related sites and I told the young lady all this yesterday. If you can negotiate with the businesses that you want your website to be linked back to your website, we handle all the work of doing it. We also do slow submissions and monthly reporting. We submit your phrases and site to all 103 search engines. You can track your progress with our online reporting system. It is very accurate and tracks your stats on the top major 7 search engines! You will go to the site and log in and access the information. "


DO YOU THINK SHE IS A RIP OFF??

 

Is she living up to what was agreed to before payment? If what they would do was clearly laid out and your friend agreed to and paid for the service then I don't think the company you hired is doing anything wrong.

Based on what you've provided here I do think $2400 is a bit high for what you're getting, but again, it does not appear the company that was hired was/is being misleading.

Moral of the story: Your friend should have asked questions before he/she paid, not after the fact

 

If she acctually agreed for "Listing in the Top 20 of the major search engines" I am pretty sure a link development is going to happened, that is if we are talking real keywords not some out of the blue terms.

 

"Listing" could mean at position 9,472. Listing is just another word for indexed.

 

Your correct! I have misread that completly.

Additioally.

You really aren't getting a 'SEO' package but more of a bogus submission service.

We submit your phrases and site to all 103 search engines. What in the world is that good for when you they dont bring in traffic and 1 submission to those tiny search engines is all you need to stay in index and it can be done automated and for free with several websites around the net, thats if you acctually want it. I personally think you should consult someone that does "SEO" which will optimize your website for keywords and have link development and directory submissions and all the good stuff, rather then 'submitting to search engines'

 

I had to reread it a few times myself.

 

I agree with Guy. If she is living up to what she promised, it's buyer beware in this market. I'd suggest doing a lot of research before hiring an SEO firm in the future. A lot of them are not very good. Check their past projects and make sure they live up to your expectations. I had to switch SEO companies in the middle of a client project which was not fun. I was just learning about SEO and didn't know what to look for or how it worked.

If you want content built, I would recommend not relying on the SEO firm. You want content written by a copywriter who knows how to work with the SEO company. Not an SEO company that puts in words for page density. That way you'll get good marketing and good traffic. Once people get to your site, it has to be built for them; not just to get hits.

I'm a designer and work with both these types of people. If you want me to put you in touch with them, PM me and I'll send you their info.

Unfortunately content costs money to develop if you are not willing to do it yourself. A good SEO company should ask you what you want to achieve and then tell you how much it will cost and so on. If that's not in your budget, ask them to tell you what they can do for the money you can spend. And just submitting sites to search engines is a waste of money. You're better off buying the software to do it if that's all you want. But that won't get you any results.

Good luck to your friend.

 

Who says SEO is cheap, lol

 

this girl pretty much only changes the tags/titles on 5 pages for $2400 and does some cheap submisisons that are pretty worthless ?

her acting like us linking to other sites will help with seo is rediculous and the way she writes it "we will implement them into your optimization"

she cant get top 20 with what she is working with. she is not doing link building unless my friend organizes the trade she said she will insert the code

 

If you are posting this question on an SEO forum you must already know the answer regarding the quality of the SEO firm in question.

 

If she's submitting to search engines it's pretty much worthless. If she's submitting to directories that's a little better. That said, changing titles and making a few submissions is an hours worth of work if you take your sweet time. Worth $2,400...I personally wouldn't want to pay that rate for that service.

I believe that outbound links to quality, "authority" type sites as part of an overall optimization plan are a good thing. I would not classify a few on page changes (title & tags) as an optimization plan though...at least not a very good one.

All depends on the target terms. With obscure phrases it's possible. With anything even mildly competitive I wouldn't hold my breath.

Tell your friend they may as well arrange ass loads of link trades and to continually bombard your "seo" with requests to add and or modify links as a result of those trades. Might as well at least annoy the seo a bit so you feel like you got something for your money

Good luck.

 

"ass loads of link trades"???

 

Boat loads, shit loads...any sort of load will do

I was about 10 beers in at that point last night...I take no responsibility for my comments

 

I think it may be time to revive SEbasic's DrunkRank on posts...

 

At that price the whole deal is a rip-off. I guess for $2400 I can buy listings at more than 100 paid-directories.

 

I personally think your friend over paid by about $2350.00... but thats just me. Any SEO that even talks about more than 5-7 search engines isn't very legit, in my opinion.

 

That may come in handy

 

Potential traffic? In other words she is covering her ass for any failure on traffic increase.

 

The big thing with seo is time and labour. I personally never even think twice about seo 'packages' because i want results and I know they can't be guaranteed without risk to either myself or the provider. And if they do guarantee anything, then they're full of it.

Take the above. 'Potential' is a very good observation.. what would worry me though (traffic is easy - even if you have to buy it).. is whether said traffic is of any use to you.

It really is the same old thing.. know what you're buying and if you don't, get someone else involved (before you hand over the doh)..

Vote: sebasics drunkrank would be handy.. a good reminder I'm not drinking enough and spending too much time here.

Cheers,

JL

 

They did give a gurantee

Now my friend has emailed them for the past ten days straight and called everyday with no return call or email response
I think he got ripped off 100%
bringmebiz.com is a great fraud