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What Is The Hardest Part About Article Writing for You Guys?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by askbryanmiller, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hey, I've been diving hard into article marketing, and I was wondering what you guys's thought on articles and your problems you face.

    I could do a poll, but I want this to be as open ended as possible - and yes, your problems will help me out, and any solutions along with these problems are absolutely welcome.

    My problem is flow. The flow of the article. I like to write a LOOOOOT and I can sit down and do it for hours upon hours upon end, but I begin to ramble.

    The easiest way to solve this, for me, is to write out an outline and follow it to the T.

    Any others?

    THANKS GUYS!
     
    askbryanmiller, Jun 13, 2007 IP
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  2. Kontent.solutions

    Kontent.solutions Peon

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    Most of them have prob with grammar and spelling..

    That's when they look for content writers.

    ~G
     
    Kontent.solutions, Jun 13, 2007 IP
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    My problem is getting started. I can often go a couple of days at a time where I'm just not in the mood but, when I do start, I can write 20k words plus at a time.

    Just wish I could be like that all the time.
     
    Padawan, Jun 13, 2007 IP
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    zac439 Notable Member

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    Padawan- I know how you feel. I often need a little motivation.

    Some of the hardest parts for me come when a customer wants one of two things:

    # A large article on something that is almost non-existent (e.g. a car that hasn't come out yet) AND they don't want it to contain fluff.

    # A small article on a large subject is just as bad. You have to cut down on a lot of information.
     
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    articlewriter Guest

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    I have a rough time doing bulk orders on the same exact topic. Some clients order 100 articles, but they want 10 articles on one topic, 10 on another, etc. When someone orders 100 articles on the same topic, it just gets so tedious and I really need to stay focused.
     
    articlewriter, Jun 13, 2007 IP
  6. latoya

    latoya Active Member

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    The introductory paragraph is probably the toughest for me. I usually write the rest of the article first, then the intro paragraph last. Sometimes it's tough figuring out what to say to hook the reader and persuade them to keep reading.

    The rest of the article is usually a breeze for me. I tend to think about an article a lot before I ever start writing, so when it's time to type it out, I already have a pretty good idea of what I want to say.
     
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    Analyst Well-Known Member

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    For me the hardest part is to write many articles on single topic.
     
    Analyst, Jun 13, 2007 IP
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    music_city_bound!! Peon

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    Hey y'all,

    I'm new to DP!

    I noticed someone asking about problems people have in writing articles.

    My biggest problem is during the research process.

    It's SO hard sometiems to find good solid factual information on a particular topic without running into all the hype from people just trying to sell something! AARRGGHH lol

    Once I do find a topic I'd like to write about, my next problem is making the article interesting enough that the reader wants to read it without too much rambling (I'm also guilty of that! lol)

    I also find it somewhat difficult in structuring each of sections properly.

    I have yet to find a solution to each of these problems.

    Any suggestions would be most appreciated!

    Thanks,

    P.S. Good topic by the way!
     
    music_city_bound!!, Jun 13, 2007 IP
  9. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Learn to outline.

    You'll end up writing faster and better. At first, outline on paper. In time, if you get good, it will become second nature and you can do it in realtime as you write.
     
    marketjunction, Jun 13, 2007 IP
  10. askbryanmiller

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    Hey! You guys have some great input and problems! Not
    that problems are great, but the input behind them is
    awesome! I'm glad that I'm not the only one with trouble
    in this area.

    My biggest problem is re-writing PLR content. I have dudes
    sending me 18 - 25 PLR articles that I know 18 billion other
    people are using, so I have to make them unique, I tend to
    rewrite their entire article. We're talking +90% unique.

    Anyone got any suggestions for that? And what makes a
    good rewrite? I hate charging people less for rewrites (it
    seems only fair), but then turning around and having it be
    equal to a new article. It's like I'm losing.

    AritlceWriter Wrote:

    Jason Potash once wrote on this really cool technique that I
    was wondering if you or anyone else agreed with. It might
    be great for your own Articles, but I have yet to use it for
    clients.

    You write 3 versions of an intro. (I1)(I2)(I3)
    You then write 3 versions of the body
    paragraphs.(B1)(B2)(B3)
    Then write 3 versions of a conclusion.(C1)(C2)(C3)

    You can then substitute and move these bits around to
    form a crazy amount of "unique" articles.

    So article 1 could look like:

    (I1)
    (B1)
    (C1)

    Then you could shift it around:

    (I3)
    (B2)
    (C1)
    -----
    (I2)
    (B1)
    (C3)

    (Is that 27 variations if you do that?) I was wondering if
    this might be a useful way of writing your 10 on one
    subject. Just add a few new words/sentences in the newly
    "spun" articles and poof, unique. Very lazy, and only for
    those guys who just need quick content to get crazy
    backlinks, but I thought it was an interesting tip.

    Any comments?

    MarketJunction Wrote:

    I love outlining. In school I hated it, but with this, it makes
    all of my articles much more high quality, flow nicely, and
    it keeps me from rambling. Awesome.

    Thanks you guys for all of your info! Keep it up!
     
    askbryanmiller, Jun 14, 2007 IP
  11. Toe

    Toe Peon

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    My biggest problem is headline writing. I know what it should NOT be like and I know what it must be, but it is really hard to create something great. All the time I think it is not good enough
     
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    Bryan,

    I avoid rewrite assignments like the plague, for the exact reason that you're stating. Buyers tend to think that rewrites should be easier, take less time, and thus cost less. I find this to be untrue. In fact, I find when I'm rewriting that unless I practically start from scratch, it can even take longer. I've just found that taking rewrites is not profitable for me.

    My biggest problem is when I have to write more than 2500 words in one sitting, like if I have 10 articles due in 4 hours or something. To avoid this, I generally just do 3 or 4 sittings per day. The problem is when the first two sittings don't produce much and I'm stuck needing to crank out a lot at the end of the day.
     
    BSauer, Jun 14, 2007 IP
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    My biggest problem is finding the work:p
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Most writers can't write solid headlines. In fact, you're usually great at one or the other. Some are good at both. :D

    Oh, and it's just natural to never fully appreciate your own work. It's NEVER good enough. ;)
     
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    Yeah, I hate rewrites. That's a project I'm stuck at, and I am thinking about revising my pricing if I continue offering that service at all.

    If I focus I can get a rewrite done quicker than a "regular" article, but that's rarely the case, ebcause I'm just picking apart someone elses article, which is never as creative.

    Thanks
    PS. My favorite is blog writing. Weee... haha.
     
    askbryanmiller, Jun 15, 2007 IP
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    I get used to be good at both, three, etc :) That is why it is so disgusting to see the headline is not great enough
     
    Toe, Jun 15, 2007 IP
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    I agree that sometimes rewriting is more difficult. But if you have no idea about some subject how can you write something interesting about it?
     
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    askbryanmiller Active Member

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    Typically, it's been easy for me to get interested in
    unknown subjects because I tend to make myself get
    interested.

    I have no real cure for that - or a step by step system of
    coming up with interesting content on a not-so-interesting
    subject. I just can encourage you to dig into, and attempt
    to be interested. Make yourself like the reader. Maybe some
    one else has a better way of explaining this to you.
     
    askbryanmiller, Jun 16, 2007 IP
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    Rewrites can be hard depending on how you rewrite.

    If you try to rewrite it line by line, it's tough because you don't always truly understand the point that the author is trying to make. Another thing that can make rewriting hard is not knowing anything about the topic.

    I've found the best way to rewrite an article is to read the entire thing to get a feel for what the article is saying, the points the author is making, and the evidence the author uses to make his points. After you have a better understanding, then rewrite the article in your own way given the information you have.

    What I don't like about rewriting is that, to do it effectively, it's more work that writing an original. Which is why I tend not to do them and when I do, I don't discount.
     
    latoya, Jun 16, 2007 IP
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    I also have a hard time getting started - and then once I do I have a hard time staying focused!

    One thing I found that makes it easier for me is to use Dragon Naturally Speaking. I found that it tired me out to sit at the computer and type - my shoulders would start to ache because I would have them all hunched up. With Dragon, I can spend more time at writing without it hurting so much. The only thing is that it actually takes me longer to produce each article because I type pretty fast and Dragon does a lot of mis-types and puts strage words in so I have to go back and do a lot of editing.

    I think that rewriting PLR can be good if you have a good quality article to start out with. Unfortunatley most of the stuff out there is crap.
     
    cashcow, Jun 16, 2007 IP