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This wikipedia thing needs to stop

Discussion in 'Google' started by donttrustthisposter, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. #1
    I'm starting to get really annoyed with Google putting wikipedia everywhere in their SERPS. Is there some reason other than on its own merit Google is doing this? It's like the .edu thing where Google swears it doesn't give any extra points to, yet your SERP page is swamped with dead edu links on highly saught keywords.

    What am I missing?
     
    donttrustthisposter, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  2. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    Wikipedia has powerful linking. They also use nofollow links for external links.

    So for example. A page, A has thousands of incoming links and that page is a pr9, and as such should rank quite well.

    Page B, has a few links, but its linked from Page A (wikified pages with linking structures in the text) so it gets quite a lot of rank because its connected to page A, and possibly other well linked pages. So even though its self its not well linked externally it still ranks high.

    See how the PR is filtering down through the graph of the internal linking now and why wiki seems to rank for everything?

    Pierce
     
    Pierce, Jun 10, 2007 IP
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  3. explorer

    explorer Well-Known Member

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    Wikipedia scores highly because it has high trustrank.

    Unfortunately, it now hordes all of this trustrank because it uses rel=nofollow on external links. It may be good for wikipedia, but it's bad for the web.
     
    explorer, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  4. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    Wikipedia provide a lot of value.
    However it's really annoying to see Wiki, eBay, YouTube & co always in the first positions :rolleyes:

    They dominate the net.
     
    zexy, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  5. helleborine

    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    As a user, I often find that Wikipedia is the most desirable page to answer my queries.

    I don't begrudge their good ranking.
     
    helleborine, Jun 10, 2007 IP
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  6. Pedro Monteiro

    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    Mmm So I'm searching for web design or Web marketing and what is the probability that I am searching for the meaning of these terms?

    Very reduced wouldn't you say?

    So why is Wiki beating my company for those search terms?

    Isn't it all about relevancy?
     
    Pedro Monteiro, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  7. AngelaE8654

    AngelaE8654 Active Member

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    I do, too.
     
    AngelaE8654, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  8. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    People just need to stop linking to it, or only use nofollow links. Theres no reason to give it the google juice.
     
    LinkSales, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  9. digital1

    digital1 Well-Known Member

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    Amen to that. My Devil May Cry site used to rank first for one of its primary keyword until all of a sudden a wikipedia page concerning the same subject was erected and I've been stuck underneath it since. *curses*
     
    digital1, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  10. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    google and yahoo is changing their algo. according to wikipedia. have tried define:xxxx operator. it's showing wiki results.

    i hate this but it's true
     
    trichnosis, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  11. peeg

    peeg Peon

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    I've got to agree with previous posts in that it's annoying they are dominating the web. However, business is business and right now they are winning.

    We need to work around the issue or beat them at their own game. Simple :-D
     
    peeg, Jun 10, 2007 IP
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    i just hate wiki :(
     
    the-kids, Jun 10, 2007 IP
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    desibull Peon

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    Thats it! Tit for tat!
     
    desibull, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  14. Endurer

    Endurer Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! I was searching for bathtubs (not the whats and hows of it) and here's what I got:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bathtubs
     
    Endurer, Jun 10, 2007 IP
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  15. helleborine

    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    Don't you really want to know what a bathtub is, before shopping for one?

    ;-)
     
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    joeychgo Notable Member

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    I really dont like it. Wiki really doesnt deservie the rankings it gets.

    Why do I say that? More often then not, what they say about a topic is minimal and sometimes incorrect.

    Google should give more weight to sites dedicated to topic then sites where many topics are discussed.
     
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    login Notable Member

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    I like wiki for fact stuff, but for other things it does not belong in the serps.
     
    login, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  18. Freewebspace

    Freewebspace Notable Member

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    Wiki is good as it does not allow sponsors or affilates into it

    I tried to put into www.webhostingtalk.com under webhosting

    bu they removed it

    But I am getting traffic from wiki for a co.nr site!
     
    Freewebspace, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  19. BigBadWolf

    BigBadWolf Well-Known Member

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    I used to like wiki, when I had school projects to do.... lol

    Now its irritating that what ever you search their it shows up on the front page.
     
    BigBadWolf, Jun 10, 2007 IP
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    sometimes I go straight to wikipedia because it has the most up to date and relevant information
     
    oseymour, Jun 10, 2007 IP