Is this correct? 1.Adds display on other sites so we can get traffic. 2.Links may be counted by engines and so BL and PR. 3.Anything else? With google and others hungry to penalise is this a dangerous tactic? What is the chance of over doing it? Can I get experienced opinions on this question. What is excessive in linking to one url? If I have in my account 100k weight and set up links to one url using varied keywords and to inner pages with 2-5 links growing per day over 50 keywords to pages is this too much? its 100-250 per day! Also.. I've seen posts of members pushing their weight off of their own sites? Why I thought the weight was good and useful and at what point is it risky? Last question.. Why it is better to have many low PR sites link to you rather than high PR sites. I would feel one high PR site is a great vote in confidence to search engines and a lot of low PR sites looks spammy? I've seen high PR sites prefer more low PR sites? Appreciate anyones help to answer these questions.
Thanks for the reply fryman but it still leaves all of my questions open. From what you said it is not a seo tool - does this mean it definately does not help with backlinks, it does not accrue PR or traffic increase? Also if its not seo related and its just advertising I could place 500k of weight on one keyword on one url and this is perfectly safe to do? If so thats great..but I doubt it. Does anyone have experience in using weight and any advise on how much is not enought to get an effect and what is too much for a theme and keyword that has about 20mil pages in google?
I think it depends on what seo we're talking about...maybe for some SE's it's more influencial than others but for sure it has effect on all in some way or other.
I checked 'ranking experiment' and 7 out of 10 posts on page 39 - well into the experiment - tell of the word "ban". It seems a long running experiment and alittle confusing - if anyone tracked it from the start could you place starting point serps position at start and then at end and also recorded BLs. If banning is a possibility then this is what I want to avoid - for everyone. Apparently with google there is no off page actions that can damage you. The COOP is a big group and I have read of some people with huge weight and am asking for them to give their experience of what is enough to get a great result and what is too much? Hope to hear some positive feedback as I would really like to utilize this advertising network to its optimum.
Ok, heres my take on it. It is an AD Network, and traffic from it has been increasing since I started using it. People so and have sold things directly from it. Because it is based on text links it has an effect on rankings like any text links would do. The coop is a load of individual sites offering free space for other advertisers which is automated using the coop. The Charity site was around 150 in google an rose to around 15. The site has not been banned by any of the search engines. I think the current issue in Yahoo for example is the fact the the site has 2 different homepages (domains) that are identical. Yahoo is picking up the 'other' one to google. I didnt bother checking msn. Unnatural linking schemes are penalised by search engines. The best way to use the coop would be to start slowly an build up, there is no replacement for experience. Im sure if you put a million new links at any new site it would be flagged. I personally wouldnt regard that as a coop issue, if you had enough resources you could do it in many other ways.
Thanks design. Any other actual experiences with this and best ways to use COOP to its maximum? Design, you say "Unnatural linking schemes are penalised by search engines" Is there proof of this? It seems like it would be hard to tell, so what if you got 1000 links a day it means your popular or unnatural? I could see a link being panalised if it was placed in a section of a site labled "PAYED LINKS" Links to a site used to be the basis of google but now if that can be penalised it would seem too easy to get your competition dropped. A webmaster could just spam out requests for links for anyone above him in the serps and he would kill his way to the top.
let me rephrase.. Lots of people say too many links can cause problems, some say in google they depreciate the value and in yahoo people are getting banned. This is what people say.. I have no real idea, I dont point 1000000s indentical links at any site. Paid links is not a problem, buying links for PR purposes is I believe.
Can anyone else answer my questions on how much weight and links is ok - or just give your experience on this. Also why a site with good pr would prefer many low pr links instead of high pr links?
I think a lot of it depends on how established your site already is - and how many static backlinks you have. I have not seen any negative effect on established sites, but think it is possible a new site might have problems by pointing a lot of weight to the site, too fast. Of course a new site isn't likely to rank well on google for any competitive keywords because of the sandbox. You also can't control the exact number of backlinks or number of impressions. I've experienced wild fluctuations between sites with the exact amount of weight pointed to them. Your weight also changes based on the number of indexed pages google shows with API. I've had a site go from 1,000 to 13,000 overnight so you have to watch your total weight. While it is an "advertising network" I personally see a very small percentage of actual traffic with about 25,000 weight. I'm sure this is because the links are not sector targeted for my sites (because a category doesn't exist). As of the last PR update, the co-op was passing some PR. I had new sites get a PR4 with no other linking - although I think the PR that passes per link is very, very small. How much is too much is a question that will get you a lot of different answers. Don't rely on the co-op for all your links if you want to rank well with google. The co-op used to be great for MSN but there seems to be some sort of change going on right now.
Thanks for that! My site has been around since 2001 and establish in themed links. It seems that you can't really over do it on weight which has been the only thing I would have been wary of. The best way to be an advertising network would be perhaps enforce us to place links high on web pages eg top right sector of a page instead of links hidden down in the footer. It would also be good if our links are placed on sites per category or even best if we were placed on pages only if the link keyword is already in the body of that page and move to permanent advert spots Completely on theme! Since joining COOP I now notice so many other sites in COOP just by the non-sequitur 5 links in the footer of their pages. If I can notice it I'm sure an engine can and could factor it into their ranking.
I'm thinking of turning co-op off too. At the outset whether intended or not it was a great SEO tool. Now I find its main benefit is getting sites indexed quickly by pointing co-op weight at them.