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I herd Alexa wasnt as good as I herd it was?

Discussion in 'All Other Search Engines' started by Aaron111, May 22, 2007.

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  1. Embrance

    Embrance Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Unless you are in their top 100 ranking it doesnt matter.
     
    Embrance, May 27, 2007 IP
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    Kontent.solutions Peon

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    #22
    You've heard right. I have a lot of friends who have no idea what IM is, let alone Alexa :D

    So the results what you get is definitely not accurate. If your website is related to IM or anything close to it, then mostly your alexa rank is much better as most of the visitors to your site have an idea what IM is and you can expect them to have alexa tool bar on their browsers.

    ~G
     
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    idotcom Well-Known Member

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    #23
    You simply cannot count on alexa rankings. I would give it a max 10% accuracy.

    Alexa rankings are based only on it's toolbar usage. According to alexa, there are several million users, Primarily China. Your average target audience is not likely to have the alexa toolbar, which makes your rankings way off.

    They even talk about the typical alexa toolbar user. amazon... archive... not your site. Also, I've noticed that websites that attract webmasters or internet traffic people will have higher rankings, and that's becuase more of them have the toolbar installed.

    So if you had a website like webmasterforum12.com with 1,000 visitors a day, alexa would show a high ranking.

    If you had a site about pets with 10,000 visitors a day, your ranking would be equal or less than the webmaster site.

    Quote from alexa:
    You simply cannot count on alexa rankings.
     
    idotcom, May 27, 2007 IP
  4. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree it shut down my pc more than once thats why I had to thread about the alexa tool bar and whats worse than that no pc" to what do I owe alexa?:D
     
    Aaron111, May 30, 2007 IP
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    #25
    That about sums it up, actually. Despite Alexa's protests (no doubt helped by it's poor history) most if not all security suites and scanners will warn about and/or try to block / delete the Alexa toolbar. Personally I still consider the thing slightly insidious.

    Also yes, with or without the toolbar installed, you can fudge the rank up to around the 100k mark, though realistically it takes the figure from people (usually webmasters) that use it.
     
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    #26
    One point I might add, while the traffic rank feature is a decent statistical tool, I look more at the number of links and pages viewed per user. Both these numbers can be a more accurate gage for a website. For your personal sites, the page views per user is a very valuable tool.
     
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    primeryder Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Alexa ratings are a bit off. It would be like being able to increase your google pr simply by clicking the little green bar enouph times. It can be manipulated rather easily.
     
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    #28
    Actually,

    I think, alexa rank is quite useful for directory owners and directory visitors and forums.

    Its completely useless for ranking almost any other type of site, the majority of Alexa bar users appear to be webmasters or frequent web users,

    so if you target market is that comunity, well Alexa ranking is a useful guide to how you're doing, an it doesn't really matter if its not tamper proof, tis pretty easy to see if a directory is busy or not,

    full , many new listings, many submissions, many people talking about it favourably, is busy directory,

    empty, very few new listings, no new submissions perday, is a quiet directory
     
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  9. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    #29
    know that is the type of info im lookin for Qryztufre's"
    you hit the nail on the head" I figured their was a niche somewhere".
    I thought the Alexa Tool bar was attached to the browser how do you get it on your site? can I see sample of your web site and what it looks like?
     
    Aaron111, Jun 4, 2007 IP
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    zinruss Notable Member

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    #30
    Alexa’s definition of the Alexa Traffic Rank:

    Alexa ranking is heavily skewed towards websites which have a large webmaster/tech audience. This is because webmasters or web savvy audiences are much more likely to have the Alexa toolbar installed than websites whose visitors are unaware of Alexa. You can still use alexa to measure web traffic because bringing it past the 10,000 or 1,000 mark is still difficult due to competition among websites.
     
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    #31
    its true, its not very accurate
     
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  12. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #32
    My website is Occult Corpus and you can see the widget installed in the lower left corner. You can download the widget here: http://www.alexa.com/site/site_stats/signup

    Though, I've recently dropped to the lower 90k's, still in the top 100 *buff* ;)
     
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    #33
    i'm around 48k, with 2k unique/day..
     
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  14. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    thank everyone for the opinions on how alexa really works as I gather the guy with the smiley face on his foot seems to have the niche on Alexa" that jpeg is out its like saying snell my feet>? "
    but your post are insane I will install the alexa toolbar right away on my browser, how to place on your site has yet to be found"

    thanks guys its been great keep the post alive and breathing" everyone gets a cookie for this"
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #35
    I like the tool bar from: http://www.quirk.biz/searchstatus/

    a lot better then the one from Alexa itself. This one includes added features, including Google PR, and Compete Rank.

    I'm not affiliated with the thing, just a fan...

    ( I used to have another avatar that I got bad rep for, so yeah, this one is saying smell my foot to the person that red repped me ;) )
     
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  16. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    Hey raredog what about your traffic is it more or less? I have a widget on my site>> http://www.sleekbusiness.com thanks to these awesome post here but you say pr what about actual traffic did you see a major difference here?
    and do you have the widget on your site?
     
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    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    Qryztufre" I did not mean a thing its just a first time seeing af oot on a forum thats all"
    nyway thanks for the help I appreciate it" tell me the tool bar does it help rank and traffic like the Alexa one?
    my bad"
     
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    #38
    its fun to look at but then again not everyone has the toolbars
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #39
    I didn't take offense, not in the slightest. I have a GREAT sense of humor, so unless you are actually calling me names, then I'm likely at least snickering...so it's all good ;) :D

    And, yes, the new version does effect rank, at least according to their page.
     
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    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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