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BEWARE: Another question about SERPS+PR

Discussion in 'Google' started by def47, May 19, 2007.

  1. #1
    It may have been asked before, I just didn't know what to search for. Sorry

    for the same keywords, my website was ranking around 20-25 for about 5 weeks, then I started working on backlinks. Now, in the last 2 weeks, it keeps ranking better everyday, and it reached the 6th rank today.

    My question; PR is updating daily but only updated to the public every 3 months or so. So Google knows my ''secret PR'' that I will get in the next update. Is the SERPS based on that PR or on the PR I got last update(PR0)?

    (forgive my poor vocabulary.. and yea I know the SERPS arn't really based on PR, but IMO PR do influence the SERPS)
     
    def47, May 19, 2007 IP
  2. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #2
    Page Rank basically has nothing to do with your ranking in SERPS. You can get more information about the ranking factors by visiting Google.
     
    maldives, May 19, 2007 IP
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    KC TAN Well-Known Member

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    #3
    PageRank is one of the factors that used to determine SERP:

    Source: http://www.google.com/technology/index.html

    Back to the question, Google uses the actual PR for SERP listing :)
     
    KC TAN, May 20, 2007 IP
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    sussane Active Member

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    #4
    thanks for sharing that helpful link kchut
     
    sussane, May 20, 2007 IP
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    Forsh Well-Known Member

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    #5
    PR is one part of a larger algorithm.
     
    Forsh, May 20, 2007 IP
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    def47 Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Thanks, that's what I wanted to know
     
    def47, May 20, 2007 IP
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    Spartan_Strategy Peon

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    #7
    What do you recommend. We do weekly press submissions online through varying distributors like prweb and prleap. Right now we do not have these listed on our site, meaning linking back to the online releases. How much would this help and is there any potential it could cause and negative ranking as most releases link back to our main site? Does anyone have any experiance with this and the results?
     
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    FastWeb Peon

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    #8
    Backlinks won't hurt your ranking unless they come from bad neighborhoods (links farms, spammy sites, banned sites, etc.). You actually will get greater results if you DON'T link to the press releases. A one-way link is always better for your rank.
     
    FastWeb, May 20, 2007 IP
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    Spartan_Strategy Peon

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    Thanks for the answer!
     
    Spartan_Strategy, May 20, 2007 IP
  10. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    Yes! What could be clearer?!! It amazes me, despite this clear statement by Google, that so many DP posters post again and again that PR does not affect SERPs. It is a factor in SERPs. Not the only factor, but definitely a factor.
     
    Jim4767, May 20, 2007 IP
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #11
    PR is just a number

    Serps isn't influence by PR (but if you get good rankings you can have good pr but not having a good pr you mean you will have good rankings)
     
    w3bmaster, May 20, 2007 IP
  12. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    I remain dumbfounded! How can people continue to believe that?

    Let's read Google's quote again from the earlier post: "Quote [from Google website]: ... So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search..."

    PageRank is part of the algorithm that determines the search results. SERPs are influenced by PageRank.
     
    Jim4767, May 20, 2007 IP
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    SupaSharp Well-Known Member

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    #13
    thanks for the info
     
    SupaSharp, May 20, 2007 IP
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    Because you have some very stupid people using the following logic:

    I see a PR4 page outranking a PR6 page for a specific term, therefore that proves that PR is meaningless.

    Doesn't matter how well you explain it to them, they still refuse to understand it.

    Hell, they get downright defensive when you try and show them the flaw in their logic.

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, May 20, 2007 IP
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    That makes absolutely no sense. If this was true, then I could go spam competitor sites on link farms, and in your theory take them down below my rank.

    I would argue, and try to teach the pagerank thing, but people will never understand.
     
    netstorm, May 21, 2007 IP
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    seo-mumbai Well-Known Member

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    yes then i can link all my competitor sites to spam and banned sites and get on top, rather then making backlinks for my site:D
     
    seo-mumbai, May 21, 2007 IP
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    boyponga Banned

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    #17
    PR does not affect SERP's ranking, but it might help increase your money by selling links
     
    boyponga, May 21, 2007 IP
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    mvandemar Notable Member

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    /sigh

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, May 21, 2007 IP
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    /double sigh/ :( The "PR does not affect SERPs" chant so often repeated on DP reminds me of the old saying, "Don't confuse me with the facts." And the fact that Google declares that PR does affect Google's search engine results seems to be irrelevant to those who have memorized the chant.
     
    Jim4767, May 21, 2007 IP
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    #20
    I agree with this comment...
    In my experience ... its true
     
    SuryaPuthran, May 21, 2007 IP