Dont matter if your white or black

You better believe it. It is great to get worked up, lose my perspective, then laugh at how seriously I take myself :O)))

 

I saw on the news, a police officer saw a 3 year old girl getting raped in the superdome and could do nothing to stop it. Madness, absolute madness. If I was there I would have done something to that low-life.

 

I love how all the Bush bashers put this on him. Where was the BLACK mayor? Why did he let all them buses get flooded instead of using them to get people out?

 

Here is something for everyone who clicks on the thread thinking it is seo related http://seoblackhat.com/

 

Damnit...

And just incase they feel like continuing this thread, please see this post
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=314002&postcount=46

 

I agree with you to a point, SEbasic, and you know I have the same, or very similar, values to you regarding humanitarian intentions.

I also realize that hardly anyone at all changes their minds in these discussions. However, the problems here, as in my country, and many, many societies, is lack of education, and lack of knowledge of current events. We try to reach people when, as individuals, we feel there is a lack of understanding in areas that are important to everyone.

We also are in a section specifically set aside to talk about non web development and SEO stuff. There are all sorts of topics here, and I do not think it is balanced to say this topic is out of line, while all others that are non webdev and SEO are not.

Mostly though, it is a problem with the attitudes and lack of respect for each other in this thread, not the topic per se. Yes, I am extremely guilty of this type of behavior, and I am embarrassed at my replies in the past (and probably still will be ignorant at times in the future, I don't always have good judgment)

Everyone also has a choice to ignore these threads, what goes on is not an imposition on you or anybody, and I think that is a very important point. No one is forced to look at this or especially, participate.

I am very much against removing choices for people to make when these choices do not impose on anyone's rights.

That said, I do also think there is a time and a place for everything, and I must point out that at my forum, I discourage (now that I've learned some self restraint - well, some!) these types of discussions. I am not saying I disagree with these threads being counterproductive in a place like DP, and that they specifically can lower the standards of conduct to an unreasonable level for Digital Point, just that this is an open category, and I wish to make choices based on ethics, and not have them decided by what I consider are inappropriate reasons.

Again, I think the main problem are lack of reasoning skills, and mostly, plain lack of respect and attempts to understand each other. That is what makes these discussions so distasteful and wrong.

Myself, I am a childish hothead and abusive. I have growing to do, and I am trying to learn to make posts without name calling and insults and presenting my opinion as fact. Yeah, I have a long way to go, but I am just pointing out one little way that I can try to make something positive come of these types of discussions - learn to analyze myself and treat others with more respect, and don't take offense so quickly and easily.

Mostly, I just ignore the threads, when I have a clear head, LOL, realize that how I feel, and what I react to, and how, are my choice. I don't have to be a victim, and I don't have to let anybody get to me, or try to make them behave a certain way. As soon as I get upset at others and react to control them, I give away personal power.

BTW, I only just figured this out for myself, in the last couple of weeks. I am no better than anyone, just different, like we are all individuals. I try to see as that; different but not right or wrong, because although I know they are wrong according to my values, I have no right to suppose that my values are fundamental.

 

I recently gave you rep mik, otherwise I'd do it again...

I hear ya, I'm just amazed at the quantity of these threads now on DP and the way they seem to span completly out of control and end up with people resulting to personal insults and accusations.

Anyway, I've deemed to stay out of these threads now - I learnt that back when AC was still around...

Cheers

Ol

 

Great post Mik!

 

There has been a lot of posting that politics or in reality Mr. Bush should not be discussed in DP and some how DP should stop these threads. The usual argument is that he and the subject has got nothing to do with SEO.
This argument is pushed forward by those that who know very well the postings are done in General chat area and most subjects in this section has nothing to do with SEO.
It is very funny that the same people who try to force everyone to silence and support censor, are the same people that support war in Iraq because it is supposedly exporting democracy to that country.

 

That's quite the generalization man...Jesus do you think before you speak?

Dude I have kept my mouth shut for the most part, but, last I checked your Government was backing ours in that sand, we are not alone there man. How many American's do you see badmouthing your government every chance we get. How many others here are supporting terrorism like you so eloquently do every fricken chance you get. As I said in a previous post, don't like it??? Don't move here, we are much better without ya.

 

Thanks, folks! It is a constant battle to know what is right these days, for me anyways. I learn a lot from everyone here, everyone. Even people I disagree with on one specific discussion, I try to remember (it's true whether I remember or not, LOL) that they know a whole heck of a lot of other things I don't.

It is pretty stressful these days with all the heavy stuff we read and see in the news, let alone our own personal lives. I have to remember that this affects all our behaviors, and it is probably a good idea to give veryone extra benefit of the doubt. I just believe that we all wish, in our own way, that everything was better for everyone, that we could all be happy and succesfull.


I feel very welcome here at DP, thanks guys :O))))))))))!!!

 

Okay, that's it, I am covering my ears and going "lalalala..."

;O]

 

Well, let me tell you, all you bushwackers are just cementing the opinions of conservatives. Typically, when you blame a president for a hurricane, or the fact that FEMA was slow to act (no jurisdiction to do so) you just prove to me I made the right choice.

 

Nah mikmik you don't have to, it's like when brothers and sisters fight, we argue, but, it's all love. I am not going to waste my time being angry with someone online, I like it here,

I don't argee with senseless bashing of a government that one does not pay taxes to, has no voting rights in, and has absolutely no right to judge. thats all. That would be like me badmouthing the British Monarchy....last time I tried just being funny, a girl from Bristol kicked me squarely in the junk, there was a lesson in that .

 

I am sure a lot of dead Iraq's civilian felt the same way too, the only problem was your government insisted on exporting "democracy" and getting them killed.

 

Actually, the several hundred thousand who were killed by Saddam may disagree with you gworld. Then again, you are used to that.

 

Can you please show where did you find the several hundred thousand? Are you referring to Iraq-Iran war? I think the biggest massacre that they did was about 5000 Kurds in a village which by itself is unforgivable action but it is much lower the number of people killed during the last few years.
It was brutal and corrupt government but the alternative has not been better for average people and possibly worse.

 

democratization of the region might not be a bad idea-bad reasons for going or not. The fanaticism in the area is a huge economic and security concern. Imperialism is fine by me so long as both sides benefit from the changes.