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Changing the Reputation system

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by LeopardAt1, May 5, 2007.

  1. #1
    Just wondering, why is it when you give someone a negative rep, you also receive one yourself?

    examples:

    Joe gives John a negative rep for making a very off topic post. Joe, then also receives a negative rep.

    Joe gives John a negative rep for him making a very rude unnecessary comment. Joe, then also receives a negative rep.
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    So why exactly should Joe also get a negative rep. A lot of comments go made, comments that are just to tally up post counts or comments that are extremely biased or just flat out nonsense. Those who keep posting them deserve a negative rep and perhaps some people are more hesitant knowing that if they red rep the person, then them too will also lose a point.

    I just see no real purpose of enforcing this. Can someone tell me?
     
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  2. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    To prevent rep abuse. If it costs you something to give negative rep, you will not be willing to give unless posts is really to your disliking for some reason.
     
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  3. login

    login Notable Member

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    And this method is very effective.
     
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  4. devin

    devin Guest

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    #4
    before this system was implemented (yes there was a 'then') rep abuse were rampant. this helps to reduce abuse.
     
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  5. LeopardAt1

    LeopardAt1 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Thanks for the replies everyone. Starting to make a little more sense now.


    Perhaps changing it to 5 reps per 24hrs as opposed to 10 will reduce the abuse as well. :) Also, you have to wonder if most of those red reps were all abuse. What if they were legitimate red rep's?
     
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  6. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    Anyone know exactly what "you have to spread some reputation around before giving it to so-and-so again" means? Like how much reputation spreading?
     
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    paidhosting Peon

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    Probably 24 times.

    But current -1 point loss for giving red rep is not fair, it should be atleast 50% loss for the user giving -ve rep cause say i give someone -ve rep he will probably loose -6 points or more but i loose only -1 , i should technically to be fair loose about -5 points thats 50% of my rep power. To keep abuse be red reppers still. Cause still red rep abuse is taking place.
     
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  8. cormac

    cormac Peon

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    Those were the days eh? I have my suspicion on who was the highest abuser. ;)
     
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    login Notable Member

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    That would not be fair either. That means that the people with a lot of green would lose a lot for giving red rep. If we could choose how many points the receiver will lose then your suggestion is fair.
     
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  10. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    Yeah, that's exactly true. There is no disincentive for people who have a lot of posts, etc. from abusing the system. Especially if they form cliques and rep each other to make up for their losses.
     
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    paidhosting Peon

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    another thing users need to start leaving their names when they rep me so i can rep them back the same. For example just got rep saying "Yeah" alright revel urself now:) ur in trouble buddy :p

    And so on even green reppers leave no name which makes it hard to track who found my crappy post useful . It should be hardcoded into the rep system showing and putting the users name in the rep , be it red or green to prevent any abuse at all.

    Cheers
     
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    Superman123 Peon

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    I agree with this theory of reps! It is very intelligent the way its set up.. I don't think theres a need to change the rep system. It makes people think twice about unleashing negs on everyone who does just one little thing. Plus - 1 point is not a lot and will not effect your reputation by much!:)
     
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    FanAddict Notable Member

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    How many reps do higher green users give out when they hit the red button?

    Is it 5 or something... that's what I heard :)
     
    FanAddict, May 5, 2007 IP
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    MaryMary Prominent Member

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    I'm pretty sure that they only lose -1 just like everybody else.
     
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    maldives Prominent Member

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    It is 10 points. If a negative rep it costs -1 :)
     
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    inworx Peon

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    Depends on the rep points the user has. Like if I give you red or green rep. you will gain/loose 4/5 points...I guess
     
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  17. Rohit patel

    Rohit patel Prominent Member

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    Well all depend on User's power. If he has 7 Rep power than he add +ve than you get +7 and if he add -ve reps than you got -7 and he also got -1.:)
     
    Rohit patel, May 6, 2007 IP
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    Makubwa Active Member

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    As said above, it prevents abuse and bullying. If I did not like you, I could go to all of your threads and just leave negative - which would leave people getting banned for nothing.
     
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    Katy Moderator Staff

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    I think it's pretty much fair. Someone gave my a negative reputation (I know who he is though ;) ) for a normal post, there wasn't anything bad with that post, but I received it just because the person doesn't like me, so I'm glad he lost 1 point himself.
     
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  20. Rohit patel

    Rohit patel Prominent Member

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    Yeah and new members who give -ve reps also take care next time because of this -ve reps.:)
     
    Rohit patel, May 6, 2007 IP