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Boycott Arab Gas - Stop Funding Terroism

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mia, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. #1
    I found this quite interesting as I have been saying for a long time the best way to win the war on terror is to just stop buying gas from the countries that are supporting terrorism. I'm converting my cars and Motorcycle to LP in an effort to reduce my dependance on terror gas, and was able to find that there actually are stations in the US that do not sell Terror gas. Read on, and be sure to go to a non-terror gas station. I prefer Citgo myself. Here in WI, good clean fuel, not from a terror nation, and price wise, not bad either.

    Do your part.

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    You might want to make a copy of this and keep it in your car. Looks
    like we're subsidizing a bunch of murdering misfits by buying Mideast
    oil/gas. Sticky wicket, whot?


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    WHERE TO BUY YOUR GAS,

    THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

    READ ON--

    Why didn't George W. think of this?

    Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it.

    It might even be good for us!

    The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

    We should return the favor.

    An interesting thought it to boycott their GAS.

    Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
    the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
    their oil from the Saudis.

    Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
    the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
    family, and my friends.

    I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil compa!
    nies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
    Eastern oil :
    Shell............................. 205,742,000 barrels
    Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
    Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
    Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
    Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels

    If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
    BILLION!

    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
    ARC0..................0 barrels
    Citgo......................0 barrels
    Sunoco...................0 barrels
    Conoco...................0 barrels
    Sinclair.....................0 barrels
    BP/Phillips..............0 barrels
    Hess.......................0 barrels



    All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
    each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
    importing.

    But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas
    buyers.

    It's really simple to do.

    Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how
    simple it is to reach millions of people!!

    I'm sending this note to about thirty people.

    If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and
    those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by
    the time the message reaches the sixth genera! tion of people, we will have
    reached over THREE MILLION consumers!

    If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends
    each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

    If it goes one level further, you guessed it ..... THREE HUNDRED
    MILLION
    PEOPLE!!!

    Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.

    How long would all that take?

    If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day,
    all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next eight
    days!
     
    Mia, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    GREAT IDEA MIA.

    BEST IDEA EVER.

    How about starting a campaign that congress should pass a law that forbids import of oil from all middle eastern or Islamic countries?

    I am 300% supporting you mia, start your campaign today.
     
    gworld, Aug 24, 2005 IP
  3. carowan

    carowan Peon

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    Like the idea, but its a heck of a lot easier to drive a more efficient car (eg. non SUV)
     
    carowan, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Sorry... but i've seen 100 variations of this chain letter already... NONE of them will ever work...

    First it was "Don't buy gas for a day" and they'll all go bankrupt... RIGHT...

    Then it was don't buy gas from these big companies, so they have to lower their prices and we get cheaper gas.... RIGHT....

    Now it's this... give me a break. EVEN IF you could get any large volume of people to participate in this for any period of time long enough to make a small difference... the companies could simply lower they gas 10 cents a gallon and everyone would buy it.

    IT'S NOT REALISTIC.

    Sorry to be a party pooper... but lets get real.
     
    yo-yo, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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  5. nevetS

    nevetS Evolving Dragon

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    How about we just boycott the us government since they spend more money on oil from middle eastern sources than shell, chevron and exxon combined.

    Your numbers are off too - crude is hitting $60/barrel right now - and a few thing that I find interesting :

    California oil drilling typically ups itself to 100% capacity when oil hits $19/barrel. BP now is in charge of most of the SoCal wells and they aren't operating at full capacity right now.

    The US has typically dumped oil from it's reserves into the market to deal with rising gas prices. Instead of rescuing the market right now, the US is filling its reserves - making the problem even worse and driving prices up.
     
    nevetS, Aug 24, 2005 IP
  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    And for the record, I personally support this over war 100%
     
    Mia, Aug 24, 2005 IP
  7. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Wow, I turn on all my filters in my email to avoid getting these chain letters and now I get them here...

    Do these things really work? Do people really participate in these things? I remember getting an email once about turning my lights off for one hour to complain about the high cost of electricity... of course I just deleted it and enjoyed my daily simpsons episode :D
     
    fryman, Aug 24, 2005 IP
  8. J.P

    J.P Notable Member

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    I can't actually remember the last time I got a chain letter, I think my sister sent one a few months back, send this to 10 people for your wish to come true... some crap like that anyway :)
     
    J.P, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    starmonkey Peon

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    I parked my car in May, didn't use it for 2 months, turned the plates in and cancelled the insurance in July. Don't buy gas period. Haven't even used my BBQ since May. I always try to buy local and ethical, although I could care less if something was tested on an animal or made out of an animal.

    As for your pasted chain letter, it would never work. Americans are consumer w_o__s. But hey, they make the world go round and are my target market for demographics at work here. You could never get the big oil co's to stop buying Saudi oil, you could never get 300million Americans to boycott them, and even if you did, guess what? China would pick up the slack and they wouldn't even notice.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    VERY GOOD MIA.

    forget about email. start a movement, so the congress pass a law that forbids the import of oil from middle east and Islamic countries. HOW CAN I HELP YOU TO START THIS CAMPAIGN?

    Guys don't try to discourage mia.

    Mia, don't listen to anybody else here, GO FOR IT.
     
    gworld, Aug 24, 2005 IP
  11. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    Getting off the gas altogether is the wisest option, go demand a Hybrid or a hydrogen car.. You need a much smaller number of people to say they want a hydrogen car before manufacturers scale up the production of these vehicles. It wouldnt take more than a few years to massively reduce the dependancy on oil (the war wont be over before then, no matter what you do).

    Trying to get millions to stop using oil is difficult.
    Honda, Lexus, Nissan, BMW, theres even a Hydrogen Hummer on the way.
    Honda have a range already
    New Civic - 650 miles on 1 tank
    Lexus Hybrids
    H2H Pics
    H2H

    There are even some fast ones around:
    Honda Civic 2006 Si

    The environment needs all the help it can get right now too.. Im sure theres noone here that disagrees with that ;)

    Oil dependancy will get worse otherwise, the countries involved are irrelevent - Consumer power works THE fastest - Demand it and they will make it as fast as they can :)

    How many requests for Hydrogen/ Hybrid Cars do you think it would take to get any model produced lets say a Nissan Skyline Hybrid or Audi S4 Hydrogen car ?
     
    Design Agent, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    They used too...then gas stations stopped labeling their gas pumps as "arab" or "american" or "other":)
     
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    ServerUnion Peon

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    So you admit (unlike our govt') that we are fighting for oil? I must turn the knife and point out that the polls are showing approval ratings dropping like a prom dress.

    Efficient transportation is the best route, why not make insentives for not only consumers but producers of these products.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Don't make this about cars or I get mad. :mad: :)

    I like big American Muscle cars or V12 European sport cars. Just now I have a 455 engine (7.2 liter) in my daily transport.

    Forgot about cars. Mia is right. Congress should pass a law that forbids the import of oil from middle east and Islamic countries.
     
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    Because I need a large vehicle I am trying to get a diesel van and then I can use bio-diesel or vegetable oils. I believe regular bio-diesel needs no mods, but I don't know for sure.
     
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    Design Agent Peon

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    The approval ratings were what before sept 11? then after and have been on a constant slide since. People almost NEVER vote against their president/ leader in times of 'war'

    There are only a few major arms manufacturing countries.

    I see a pattern. Oil. War. New Weapons. Strong Government. (feel free to arrange these in any suitable order)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    You forgot the private interests in this war, seldom a war has been so profitable for few individuals.

    If we compare the government with companies, did the CEO of world com, Enron,... did all the illegal transaction for their own benefit or the company's benefit? They did it to make themselves rich, so why should the people in government be any different?
     
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    Funny thing I heard today is that Nixon had higher poll ratings when he was in the middle of watergate. Polls aren't the best judge, but they do show a pattern.

    Our "current" govt' is to far in bed with the arab oil to let it go. The business alliances have been made, not in our, or the country's best interest though.
     
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    Design Agent Peon

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    So again the solution is to reduce dependency hence hydrogen and hybrids

    For those that dont know there are mass floods in austria, switzerland, germany, romania and many other countries in europe TONIGHT. We all need to hurry up and you guys in the US are MAJOR contributers
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4179592.stm
     
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    So, we stop buying oil from countries with terrorist links, which we think will lead to destrying their economies?

    So when these countries have effectively been ostrasized by the US and suffered a drop in their standard of living they will be greatful to the US or more against the US?

    Will they form stronger links with developing countries, who in themselves with weaker economies could be influenced by investment in infrastructure. Picture countries in Africa and Asia that have chains of Halal Kebab shops rather than McD's.

    Will a policy of ostrasizing non conforming countries lead the US down the road of isolationalism as in the 1920's?
     
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